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More than half of YC startups don't have a dot com

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Re: More than half of YC startups don't have a dot com

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Well sure you can also run a random string generator and get a short .com TLD, but that's not the point.

Today I realized how xkcd prob got it's name

Possibly, although the official explanation is that it's "just a word with no phonetic pronunciation". There's a "What does XKCD stand for?" section on the About page. https://xkcd.com/about/

Re: More than half of YC startups don't have a dot com

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IMO the biggest problem with anything that's not a .com is the registry owners. As a registrant I want low (or at least consistent) prices, minimal price increases, and an assurance the TLD is going to be around long term. The registries constantly adjust pricing and the new registrant agreements aren't as good as the old ones (ex: no price caps). The registry operators probably think they're geniuses that are maximi…

For example, see the .audio domain or any of the other Uniregistry domains that went through a massive as much as 1400% price increase in 2017 after people had already bought domains. https://blog.dnsimple.com/2017/08/uniregistry-tld-price-incr...

It caused quite a stir. I luckily was able to get grandfathered pricing for a .audio domain through my registrar (namecheap). Although their system did fail at one point and charged me the non-grandfathered price at one point, and I had to go to support for a refund. What a headache

Re: More than half of YC startups don't have a dot com

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I think this is honestly less about the notoriety of .com, and more about the lack of affordable and available domains for startups to purchase. Got a five letter named startup? That’ll cost you tens of thousands of dollars, IF you can even get it. Meanwhile there’s hundreds of gTLDs that you can buy a domain on for $10-$30/yr.

Having a dotcom is a signal of the organization's wealth. If your company is worth $3B, and your cash position is good, spending 0.01% of your valuation on a dotcom ($300k) is a no brainer. It might add to your legitimacy and prestige (even if marginally) and it's an asset that will most likely increase in value over time.

Moreso if you're a $3bn company, you certainly don't want _someone else_ owning the .com for the same reason — it lends legitimacy.

Even if they don't use the .com as their primary domain, they'll still buy it and redirect so that no-one else squats on it / phishes from it.

Re: More than half of YC startups don't have a dot com

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I found it to be really a helpful piece of info. If I only had access to it a year ago when I AskHN-ed [0] regarding this same matter.

In the end, I ended up purchasing the corresponding names in .io and .app when still available.

[0]. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29758152

Re: More than half of YC startups don't have a dot com

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this, .com domains are an ego thing more than anything at this point. Why waste valuable money on a vanity thing rather than trying to fuel growth? I guess in the worst case somebody could try to trick potential customers but otherwise as an early startup you have bigger things to worry about than a domain name

They are artificially necessary in some cases. I have a personal .com and a gTLD based domain. THis is mostly to retain control of mailflow (I use workspace but can always move it, and have in the past) The number of services/online forms that wont accept a .email domain is still very high. I would imagine at a business level this would be equally difficult, even if its just for B2B type transactions/relationships.

Same. I have a .family domain which is great, but about 1/3rd of the registration flows claim it’s an “invalid email address”. I have an older .org to fall back on, but it would be nice to use one domain for everything.

Re: More than half of YC startups don't have a dot com

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I think this is honestly less about the notoriety of .com, and more about the lack of affordable and available domains for startups to purchase. Got a five letter named startup? That’ll cost you tens of thousands of dollars, IF you can even get it. Meanwhile there’s hundreds of gTLDs that you can buy a domain on for $10-$30/yr.

this, .com domains are an ego thing more than anything at this point. Why waste valuable money on a vanity thing rather than trying to fuel growth? I guess in the worst case somebody could try to trick potential customers but otherwise as an early startup you have bigger things to worry about than a domain name

getting a .com means there s less chance of it being trademarked also. and it's not that hard to come up with a decent name that's not taken (eg. airbnb)

Why choose a name that's unavailable? pretty much every tech company has a weird .com name, and that's fine

Re: More than half of YC startups don't have a dot com

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What users even look at a domain, much less worry if it's a .COM, anymore? In the age of apps and abhorrently priced .COM domains, it seems to me that a new company with a relatively low amount of startup cash shouldn't choose to do something as idiotic as "investing" tons of cash in a domain name. Just buy a .gg or .co/ etc and get over it. If you're successful, and when you have the cash, then go wasting money on stuff like that. Not all of us have billions donated from large companies to spend on domains.. cough cough

Re: More than half of YC startups don't have a dot com

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People used to spend hours to customize their phone backgrounds and desktop backgrounds and myspace profiles, then came the big guys and now everyone uses the defaults and all webpages look alike.

Getting a non-.com domain is like that, it seems amateurish and somewhat unprofessional. There are .com domains if one is willing to be creative and settle for something that is not a simple dictionary word . The length doesnt matter as long as the word is reasonably memorable. 'facebook' and 'instagram' and 'snapchat' did not have a problem with their name. If they 'd gone for face.book, instagr.am snap.chat etc people would be confused "how do i access this site". The dot is not part of our mental dictionary.

Some of them look even dangerous. for example MS onedrive links are from "1drv.ms " which makes my emails look like phishing scams.

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