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Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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By that measure it's totally unrealistic that the average height of NBA players is 6'6"

No, because being tall is a prime factor when hiring NBA players, but having ADHD is not when hiring software engineers.

The traits often looked for in software engineers when hiring can often bear a striking similarity to the traits an ADHD or autistic person may display.

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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NBA players work in teams 100% great at shooting hoops, still the prevalence of that in the adult US population is tiny... what I am saying is that perhaps there is some selection effect happening here :)

NBA players are hired for their ability to shoot hoops. Software engineers are not hired for having ADHD.

True, but not all selection biases are intentional

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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“Neurotypical” has to do with ability to function at a fundamental level. If neurotypical person is interested in something, they are likely to be fine doing that thing. But they can also chose not to do it. Someone with ADHD has trouble controlling attention. To be a disorder, this needs to be severe enough to limit you. There is a significant overlap in behavior with neurotypical and neurodivergent people. What sep…

I probably have some wiggle room on the details, but the combination of my skills, experience, and the macro economy make me roughly a "knowledge worker". I'm interested as hell in all kinds of things, but if I "choose" not to do the "knowledge worker" thing I'm looking at a tough situation pretty quickly. I'm sure you mean well by your comment but I'd be more interested in what you think about the broader theme of "…

I can take a stab at that. :)

If we take the caveman argument at face value, the moment humanity started farming, we diverged for what we were evolved for.

In that time, the labor required for survival declined and more people had time to focus on more than mere survival. This was the start of societies and a class of people who ruled farmers.

Looking at it this way, knowledge work has existed in one form or another for millennia. Anyone who wrote books would qualify. Many of these people worked in organizations far more powerful that the laboring classes.

The Industrial Revolution accelerated this and today, we’re looking at ultimate result of that development.

For myself, I’m happy to participate in society’s benefits. I find knowledge work satisfying.

Besides, in a hunter/gatherer society, I’d have been a shaman, the original knowledge worker. ;)

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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I’m so tired of people dismissing ADHD as something other than ADHD. My diet has evolved throughout my lifetime, but you know what hasn’t? My ADHD experience. I’ve always struggled to stay focused, get started, finish tasks, manage time and set priorities since I was a young child. Claiming it’s a food allergy — with no evidence! — just reinforces the idea that ADHD is a moral failing rather than a developmental diso…

These idiots are so eager to write off what they don't understand ADHD is neurostructural ... you can see it in an MRI

Ah so the vaccines did it then! Should have put onions in your shoes and walked it off /s

In all seriousness an explanation I've seen banded around that seemed far more plausible is that it's an obsolete evolutionary mutation. Once we moved to farming and tribes/society, we no longer needed people who could stay up all night and be able to notice something miniscule like leaves ruffling in the distance

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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I appreciate the article's efforts to raise awareness, that said, as a developer with ADHD I wish 'hyperfocus' wasn't always trotted out as a kind of ADHD superpower. The inability to control your attention in order to achieve complex tasks and effect desired outcomes is ADHD. So called 'hyperfocus' is just as likely to waste your time on something unrelated and unhelpful to what you want to do. It's like telling a s…

It's so annoying to have people that think they are just doing the 'don't throw the baby out with the bath water' but being honest how good can an executive function disability be? It's like everyone is climbing a mountain, and they are wearing snow shoes, but I'm stuck with normal boots or worse. However, when I start having fun climbing I plucked off the ground by a ski lift that takes me to a random place up the m…

There was a recent article in nature (I think) that talked about dislexia and adhd as being allowed by evolution because in larger tribes or civilizations it provided a benefit for the tribe/civilization to have people with those specializations despite the downsides.

I will say that my hyperfocus as a software developer was almost all upside until I had to support multiple efforts. The talking over people lack of time management and tendency to focus on the most fun task at hand were all things my good managers could work around and forgive.

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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Anyone have tips for how they manage their ADHD, specifically when you aren't able to get yourself motivated at all with the task at hand or feel like you have too may balls to juggle? I really struggle with yak shaving and perfection being the enemy of good as well, my ADHD often devolves into OCD like behaviors.

My ADHD is severe enough that medication is more or less necessary to function. Besides that, I've not had much luck being able to channel the focus medications bring, except one key thing. Take your medication after you get started on whatever you want to accomplish. Once the meds kick in, your attention will often grab onto whatever you happen to be doing, and stay there. Another huge help is the OHIO principle: On…

Todo lists -- real ones written on paper -- help me tons. Everytime I have a 'I should.../I need to...' thought, it goes on the list. Then, when a gap in work occurs, I can pick something interesting on the list. The physical strikethrough on paper is satisfying in a way an electronic record isn't.

My preferred medium for notes and Todo lists is index cards. When I complete the tasks that fit reasonably on a card, it goes in the trash. Something about not wanting my desk littered with cards encourages me to complete them; software lists just grow and are easily forgotten/filed out of sight, or worse, become their own organizational, hyper-focus rabbit hole.

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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ADHD-like symptoms are caused by a food allergy? What might be some common foods that would cause this?

"Some of the common foods that can cause ADHD reactions include milk, chocolate, soy, wheat, eggs, beans, corn, tomatoes, grapes, and oranges. If you suspect a food sensitivity may be contributing to your child's ADHD symptoms, talk to your ADHD dietitian or doctor about trying an elimination diet".

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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I appreciate the article's efforts to raise awareness, that said, as a developer with ADHD I wish 'hyperfocus' wasn't always trotted out as a kind of ADHD superpower. The inability to control your attention in order to achieve complex tasks and effect desired outcomes is ADHD. So called 'hyperfocus' is just as likely to waste your time on something unrelated and unhelpful to what you want to do. It's like telling a s…

I've recently been able to crystalize this as "Hyperfocus is just concentration you don't control". Concentration: that thing non-ADHD people can do too.
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