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An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

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Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

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Post by meghan_rain »

noduerme wrote: post #60
meghan_rain wrote: post #23

I am addicted to (human) pornography and when I first heard about AI porn, I vowed to myself to never watch it, because I knew it would be like heroin on steroids to my brain. Welp, curiosity got the better of me, and I gave in and decided to check it out, but not the anime type that the Techcrunch article seems to have as pixelated examples. Instead, I ordered some photorealistic AI porn from an artist and it was...…

Soooo... you seem to be aware that this is an unhealthy habit, and that AI-generated porn will make it worse. I could write something generic here about AI or porn vs. mental health but instead I'm going to probably sound judgmental. I'm not; you do you; your brains are made to be stimulated any way you want to stimulate them. But you said some things seemingly in distress that are big red flags. Stop reading now if…

100% right in all regards

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Post by majikaja »

Serenacula wrote: post #15

To be honest, I kinda feel AI porn is actually more ethical than the current porn industry. Much like written or drawn porn, it does not rely on the objectification of actual people. Instead it can fill a niche without hurting anyone. There is the problem of it replacing real jobs, but this is not unique to the field. The main problem, in my eyes, is AI porn that mimics real people. This is the main place I'd like to…

I feel like worrying about ethics is often a coping mechanism hard working men do to deal with the fact that they can easily be out-earned by a woman with very little skills.

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Post by irthomasthomas »

meghan_rain wrote: post #23

I am addicted to (human) pornography and when I first heard about AI porn, I vowed to myself to never watch it, because I knew it would be like heroin on steroids to my brain. Welp, curiosity got the better of me, and I gave in and decided to check it out, but not the anime type that the Techcrunch article seems to have as pixelated examples. Instead, I ordered some photorealistic AI porn from an artist and it was...…

Pics or STFU. Seriously, though, you could post a screenshot of one those fake 10/10 faces you are talking about. You're already anonymous. Otherwise, I don't buy this.

If what you say is true, that better-than-real porn can be produced for $200, then porn stars will all be redundant within a year. I think that would be a good thing, as many porn stars are victims of abuse. Although I think more harm will be done to the consumers, it's probably a net win overall.

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Post by vernon99 »

recuter wrote: post #40
meghan_rain wrote: post #23

I am addicted to (human) pornography and when I first heard about AI porn, I vowed to myself to never watch it, because I knew it would be like heroin on steroids to my brain. Welp, curiosity got the better of me, and I gave in and decided to check it out, but not the anime type that the Techcrunch article seems to have as pixelated examples. Instead, I ordered some photorealistic AI porn from an artist and it was...…

> I am very worried tbh. Currently, it took a couple hundred dollars and a week to generate that porn, because the artist has to work with special models and do a lot of manual iterations, inpainting, etc, before it becomes even passable, and then even more iterations to make it almost flawless. But I think it's only a matter of time before this becomes automated. > And then I'll probably overdose and fry my brains o…

Tbh this reads like a comment from somebody who never visited a red light district, not tried a lot of MDMA and neither saw top quality AI porn. If this is true, why do you think your recommendation holds any value?

I can totally feel the parent poster. This is not about sex per se, this is about absolute sexual beauty that is quite hard to find even in the top secret VIP escort salons, not even talking about the proletariat-style red light districts.

And MDMA has a pretty bad seratonin depletion hangover, if you tried to do it even for a couple days straight, this would be an obvious negative experience and the reason why people actually rarely overdose intentionally.

AI porn definitely has an opportunity to create a pretty bad cheap ecstasy cycle with no massive physical drawbacks and we are definitey heading there.

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Post by devonkim »

ilkke wrote: post #22
Serenacula wrote: post #15

To be honest, I kinda feel AI porn is actually more ethical than the current porn industry. Much like written or drawn porn, it does not rely on the objectification of actual people. Instead it can fill a niche without hurting anyone. There is the problem of it replacing real jobs, but this is not unique to the field. The main problem, in my eyes, is AI porn that mimics real people. This is the main place I'd like to…

I agree with the core sentiment, but not the "without hurting anyone" part. Porn addiction (and its consequences) has been the elephant in the room for a while.

Porn addiction while real is possibly overblown or under-discussed depending upon the social circles. Like anything human made it can be used for therapeutic purposes or abused depending upon both the intent and consumer base. I think we can all agree that higher quality human relationships should certainly take priority over any form of hedonism or escapism but it’s increasingly difficult for a looser society to find the conditions requisite for such essential relationships to develop organically. Moreover, we can potentially view addictions in general as more of a symptom than a cause of failed relationships and our increasingly tenuous social fabric.

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Post by throw0101c »

narrator wrote: post #61
meghan_rain wrote: post #23

I am addicted to (human) pornography and when I first heard about AI porn, I vowed to myself to never watch it, because I knew it would be like heroin on steroids to my brain. Welp, curiosity got the better of me, and I gave in and decided to check it out, but not the anime type that the Techcrunch article seems to have as pixelated examples. Instead, I ordered some photorealistic AI porn from an artist and it was...…

The future is not Orwell and his "a boot stamping on a human face— forever." It's AI expertly pushing our little human psychological/emotional buttons forever. The future is going to be FILLED with AI hyper-trained to persuade us with beautiful people made from these models to do whatever the heck people controlling that AI want. Speaking of AI generated visual porn, I wonder why AI Dungeon, Replika and Character.AI…

> The future is not Orwell and his "a boot stamping on a human face— forever." It's AI expertly pushing our little human psychological/emotional buttons forever.

Bradbury explores (amongst other things) a constantly hedonistic society in Fahrenheit 451:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_451

Elements of that also found in Huxley's Brave New World:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World

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Post by dreen »

meghan_rain wrote: post #23

I am addicted to (human) pornography and when I first heard about AI porn, I vowed to myself to never watch it, because I knew it would be like heroin on steroids to my brain. Welp, curiosity got the better of me, and I gave in and decided to check it out, but not the anime type that the Techcrunch article seems to have as pixelated examples. Instead, I ordered some photorealistic AI porn from an artist and it was...…

Imho you should have already been looking at human actor porn the way you describe the AI porn, if you want a healthy approach to porn. Obviously women don't behave in real life in bed the way they do when acting out a porn scene. Obviously the digital content has long been digitally enhanced. Obviously sex in porn is to real sex what car chases in movies are to real police chace. My approach doesn't change just because its not filmed anymore. Its entertainment, but was never meant to depict realistic people having real intercourse.

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Post by meghan_rain »

dreen wrote: post #77
meghan_rain wrote: post #23

I am addicted to (human) pornography and when I first heard about AI porn, I vowed to myself to never watch it, because I knew it would be like heroin on steroids to my brain. Welp, curiosity got the better of me, and I gave in and decided to check it out, but not the anime type that the Techcrunch article seems to have as pixelated examples. Instead, I ordered some photorealistic AI porn from an artist and it was...…

Imho you should have already been looking at human actor porn the way you describe the AI porn, if you want a healthy approach to porn. Obviously women don't behave in real life in bed the way they do when acting out a porn scene. Obviously the digital content has long been digitally enhanced. Obviously sex in porn is to real sex what car chases in movies are to real police chace. My approach doesn't change just beca…

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Post by noduerme »

meghan_rain wrote: post #71
noduerme wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soooo... you seem to be aware that this is an unhealthy habit, and that AI-generated porn will make it worse. I could write something generic here about AI or porn vs. mental health but instead I'm going to probably sound judgmental. I'm not; you do you; your brains are made to be stimulated any way you want to stimulate them. But you said some things seemingly in distress that are big red flags. Stop reading now if…

100% right in all regards

aw hey thanks. I'm glad you weren't offended. It's pretty crazy how many things are competing to turn us into machines these days... into consumers and addicts in so many parts of our life. Definitely no judgment here. I'm an alcoholic; I understand. You sound like your rational brain wants to put up a wall between you and that flood of happy chemicals, to preserve itself. Self denial is a life saver. Weirdly enough, the same happy chemicals show up again pretty soon in a new form after you get off an addiction to something. (hopefully they attach themselves to something productive... not always, but it's worth rebooting when you know you're trapped)

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Post by recuter »

vernon99 wrote: post #74
recuter wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am very worried tbh. Currently, it took a couple hundred dollars and a week to generate that porn, because the artist has to work with special models and do a lot of manual iterations, inpainting, etc, before it becomes even passable, and then even more iterations to make it almost flawless. But I think it's only a matter of time before this becomes automated. > And then I'll probably overdose and fry my brains o…

Tbh this reads like a comment from somebody who never visited a red light district, not tried a lot of MDMA and neither saw top quality AI porn. If this is true, why do you think your recommendation holds any value? I can totally feel the parent poster. This is not about sex per se, this is about absolute sexual beauty that is quite hard to find even in the top secret VIP escort salons, not even talking about the pro…

> If this is true, why do you think your recommendation holds any value?

Well, it isn't true, sorry to disappoint heh. My suggestion for him to go to a red lights district (preferably in another country) is for exposure therapy as he is afraid of human contact in all of its forms.

> This is not about sex per se, this is about absolute sexual beauty

No, it is not about "absolute sexual beauty" or whatever flowery language you want to dress it up in. Porn addiction is a real thing, but people with actual sex lives rarely fall down that rabbit hole.

If you're going to watch a ton of porn you will inevitably get bored and seek out more extreme or niche forms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill

"Top Quality AI Porn" does not have magical powers nor is it some sort of perfection or ideal, it is simply novel. Don't worry, you'll get used to that too with time.

> And MDMA has a pretty bad seratonin depletion hangover, if you tried to do it even for a couple days straight, this would be an obvious negative experience and the reason why people actually rarely overdose intentionally.

I said overuse, not overdose. Certainly don't do it for days on end but rather space it out by months.

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