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Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale on Data About You

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Re: Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale on Data About You

#71

Sometimes it feels ridiculous how much OPSEC I need to employ to buy anything at the grocery store. I walk or bike to the store to not reveal a license plate. All radios and sensors on my handset are turned off. I wear a mask to thwart facial recognition cameras. I pay cash.

IME at Safeway if you don't use a "club card" you end up paying nearly double for many items. Are there ways around this?

Yes. Using real safe ways to shop elsewhere.

Re: Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale on Data About You

#72

Sometimes it feels ridiculous how much OPSEC I need to employ to buy anything at the grocery store. I walk or bike to the store to not reveal a license plate. All radios and sensors on my handset are turned off. I wear a mask to thwart facial recognition cameras. I pay cash.

IME at Safeway if you don't use a "club card" you end up paying nearly double for many items. Are there ways around this?

Local area code + 867-5309

Re: Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale on Data About You

#73

Sometimes it feels ridiculous how much OPSEC I need to employ to buy anything at the grocery store. I walk or bike to the store to not reveal a license plate. All radios and sensors on my handset are turned off. I wear a mask to thwart facial recognition cameras. I pay cash.

IME at Safeway if you don't use a "club card" you end up paying nearly double for many items. Are there ways around this?

Shop at Walmart or just use a burner sim/phone. I don't care how much they are going to "profile" me if there is no connection to myself in any way

Re: Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale on Data About You

#74

At my local store, the checkout clerks keep pushing me to get a loyalty card. I tried to engage once and start a conversation about privacy, but ended up walking away from the conversation feeling a little like a conspiracy theorist. But thanks to working in tech, I know this data is being tracked, bought, and sold behind the cute "loyalty" branding. I wish I knew of a good way to convince ordinary people to value th…

The clerks get penalized if they dont try to sign you up.

They also have no insight or say in the use of your data.

You might as well rant at a cloud about it.

Re: Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale on Data About You

#75
This is exactly why I don't use loyalty cards. Many stores also price their goods higher than the going rate, so they can "discount" loyalty card users without actually giving them a meaningful discount. I avoid those stores entirely.

But loyalty cards aren't the only mechanism. Beware of using credit cards at stores as well, for similar reasons.

Re: Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale on Data About You

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recently I’ve noticed multiple grocery store chains posting notices about how they no longer accept cash. A couple as of the new year.

Isn't that illegal?

It's illegal in San Francisco

Re: Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale on Data About You

#77

At my local store, the checkout clerks keep pushing me to get a loyalty card. I tried to engage once and start a conversation about privacy, but ended up walking away from the conversation feeling a little like a conspiracy theorist. But thanks to working in tech, I know this data is being tracked, bought, and sold behind the cute "loyalty" branding. I wish I knew of a good way to convince ordinary people to value th…

The clerks get penalized if they dont try to sign you up. They also have no insight or say in the use of your data. You might as well rant at a cloud about it.

Yes. Don't hassle the poor clerks. They aren't in charge of any of this stuff and certainly don't have the power to change it.

Just say "no" and move on.

Re: Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale on Data About You

#78

Sometimes it feels ridiculous how much OPSEC I need to employ to buy anything at the grocery store. I walk or bike to the store to not reveal a license plate. All radios and sensors on my handset are turned off. I wear a mask to thwart facial recognition cameras. I pay cash.

IME at Safeway if you don't use a "club card" you end up paying nearly double for many items. Are there ways around this?

I deal with it by shopping at a reasonable store. Or, if there isn't one that prices reasonably, then I'll choose the expensive store that doesn't pull this sort of nonsense and is just expensive for everyone.

Re: Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale on Data About You

#79

At my local store, the checkout clerks keep pushing me to get a loyalty card. I tried to engage once and start a conversation about privacy, but ended up walking away from the conversation feeling a little like a conspiracy theorist. But thanks to working in tech, I know this data is being tracked, bought, and sold behind the cute "loyalty" branding. I wish I knew of a good way to convince ordinary people to value th…

If the loyalty account is based on a phone number, try entering your local area code plus 867-5309. I've found this works at every major supermarket and gas station. Sometimes you get slight discounts because other people also enter this number and the account accrues points.

The other option is to sign up using a fake persona and a burner email. Typically rewards programs don't audit information or ever ask you to update it.

Re: Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale on Data About You

#80
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I’ve just always assumed that big stores were collecting and selling every iota of data they could. I recall reading about retailers using license plate scanning in their parking lots in the early aughts.

Anywhere that collects your phone number in exchange for coupons at the checkout (cough cough Old Navy) or your email to send you a digital receipt (looking at you Home Depot) is probably sharing or selling your data.

I hope Home Depot made a pretty penny off of selling my email address, which is homedepot@mydomain and not associated with any other accounts.
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