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Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Gpt as everyone that uses it extensively by now only excel in certain tasks. There is a lot of bias towards it being “great” as many of its answers look really plausible and not verified because what’s the point of using Chatgpt if I have to google again to verify?

In my view this is overhyped as a google replacement and the cracks are showing.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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as a developer I ran few tests on ChatGPT for example "write me a javascript code that does canvas animation" it was amazing to see it write actual working code. but it took about a minute to write it. If I had "Googled" the same thing, in under a second I would have found multiple working code examples (thanks to sites like StackOverflow). IMO, ChatGPT has a long way to go.

Often what you’d like to do has not been asked for exactly before.

And almost all programmers need to do something quick in a language or framework they aren’t experts in.

ChatGPT can be extremely useful in those cases in my experience.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#73
Seeing a lot of criticism towards Sundar lately, and it's not without merit. There is blood in the water now and I wouldn't be surprised if his time is limited.

He is good as a caretaker who didn't rock the boat, but Google needs bold innovation and competence if it intends on staying relevant in the years to come.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the long run, sure. In the short to medium term, though, they solidly dominate the field. We're still in that phase phase of both Tesla and Bing AI.

In the short term Google has an utterly dominant position in Search, and Bing AI is basically irrelevant to this. What people are worried about are the implications for the long term.

I don't give a fuck about Bing, frankly, but ChatGPT (the actual first mover here) has already replaced a lot of what I used Google for during a work day.

I'll be their paying customer soon. It would be great if that meant I had privacy as well, but I kinda bleakly realize that that might be a bit of a pipe dream.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Whats with everything being a dumpster fire nowadays? how about a simple hot mess? or what happened to a good ol hell in a hand-basket? or Ninth Circle Of Hell? I'm sure there are better euphemisms than the dumpster being on fhir as that indicates someone stoking it whereas the reality is more indecision and inaction causing confusion and demoralizing the teams.

If I had a nickel for every time I've heard Google has lost its mojo. Same thing with Wave, Google Plus, Allo, Reader, countless examples.

Because of these examples, my immediate gut reaction to a new Google product announcement is wondering how long it will be before Google will discontinue said product.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the short term Google has an utterly dominant position in Search, and Bing AI is basically irrelevant to this. What people are worried about are the implications for the long term.

The comment you replied to makes no mentions of timelines, and everything they said applies up to the point the first mover falls, which is clearly not the long term per your own argument. The goal posts also aren't "search" they're "AI enhanced search", let's not muddy the waters by moving them. Google may certainly be dominating in search, but they are clearly trying to sprint from miles behind in the latter.

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Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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It's hard to differentiate the various dumpster fires going on at Google right now. And I don't think they're all the CEOs fault.

Everything is your fault when you're the CEO

He takes full responsibility /s

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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(Disclaimer: Google employee, I don’t work on Bard, views my own, etc.) I don’t think either Bing Chat or Bard is ready to be released widely. You need a certain mindset to be able to wring value out of them, and most normal users will not think this way. That being said, it’s probably fine to release these tools to enthusiastic early adopters who understand how to use them.

This is what I find the most surprising. I was under the impression that ChatGPT was still "research" and wouldn't be ready for prime time for a while. These rushed products that don't live anywhere near up to the hype seem like they will sour public opinion on it.
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