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Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by saiya-jin »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #18
Darmody wrote: post #12

People asked Elon Musk on twitter to deploy Starlink to Turkey and he said he can't because it is not approved. I wonder why.

There is a difference between war and executive priviledges. The former (Russia) unilaterally imposed a decision (war) on another government and its people. The latter (erdogan) is acting in his capacity as the elected representative of the people. Starlink cannot override the decision of the elected executive. He needs approval for that.

Whats the difference between Starlink and say all satellite TV networks available anywhere, to anybody with antenna pointing up? What can he do, sue an American company for allowing freedom of speech? Musk can safely ignore that, and Turkey would need his empire more than Musk Turkey (to be clear I can imagine erdogan strongarming US government due to Nato bases but he would be showing off some nasty side of himself)

You can't block Starlink signal, it ain't cable in the ground or in sea you can cut at your will.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by ramraj07 »

coffeeblack wrote: post #67

Just like in China with the anti-lockdown protests. The people who are recognisable on social media posts from the protests have all been arrested by now. They waited just long enough to make people forget about it before they picked them up one by one.

That’s sad, and sincerely hope they get at least some form of a life back.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by [deleted] »

m0guz wrote: post #50

Insane. Developers are trying to make the best use of Twitter. * https://huggingface.co/deprem-ml * https://deprem.io * https://deprem.basarsoft.com.tr * https://go.ahb.app/guvenliharita * https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1QpICWDVpd3eIScSvaj... * https://depremenkaz.xyz Almost all the info listed on these websites coming from twitter.

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Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by Darmody »

postingawayonhn wrote: post #54
vinceguidry wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The state. In the case of UA that was Zelensky. In Turkey it's Erdogan. HNer often seem to have this weird idea that companies can take governments head-on.

Depends on the countries involved. The US has backed SpaceX in enabling Starlink service in Iran.

But Turkey is an ally and a NATO member.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by PM_me_your_math »

m000 wrote: post #4

Elections are around the corner, and Erdogan's approval ratings have been dropping even before the earthquake. Just saying...

Elections are meaningless if you can print millions of untraceable mail-in ballots and do not enforce rigorous ID requirements. Furthermore, elections are even less meaningless if you can imprison the opposition or destroy them in media under false and contrived pretense.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by jhugo »

golergka wrote: post #39
mrtksn wrote: post #20

Erdogan's first speech was almost 2 days after the earthquake and he said "We are monitoring who said what on the social media and tried to provoke the people. Today it's not the day to go after those but we take notes and when the day comes, we will go after them". Just look at his face when delivering this speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doy38aKbMw4 It's like from V for Vendetta. The lighting choice is very…

This is one of many, many reasons why western countries and social media companies should not normalise censorship re-branded like "fighting disinformation".

Sad to see this being downvoted. Rational voices have been censored on many western platforms for saying things that went against the popular narrative, the most recent obvious example being during the pandemic. Some of the things censored were batshit crazy, some of them not, but blocking discussion and letting those in positions of power decide what is "disinformation" and what is "information" isn't the way to deal with the crazy stuff.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by aiProgMach »

remind_me_again wrote: post #42
rayiner wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you use quotes around “Democratic” do you mean the elections are rigged? I’m not familiar with the legitimacy or lack thereof of Turkish elections.

It's a very subjective judgement and everyone is entitled his or her own opinion. But that one is very biased. As far as elections concerned Turkish election system is very solid as a process and implementation is solid. In the end Erdogan lost Istanbul in the last elections even after that election repeated for only Istanbul, and worse for Erdogan, the second round was much more decisive. People didn't like the elec…

> Also, don't fall to the expressions like, "Turkish here", "German there". These does not make anyone expert nor without bias.

Exactly! I'm from another global south country. Usually when someone on these sites say "${their_country} here" I prepare myself for the worst takes because I know this happens in my country, usually it's some liberal who read/work in western leaning media and repeat what they hear. It's an echo chamber so huge that you can't touch it's walls so it's hard to know you actually live in an echo chamber.

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