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Interview with the founder of Teenage Engineering

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Re: Interview with the founder of Teenage Engineering

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Perhaps slightly OT but I found building my own synthesizer using a cheap midi controller with a few dials and supercollider[0] to be very enjoyable experience.

Somehow I have a better connection to making music since it was my own virtual Synthesizer and it does just what I need it to do!

[0]=https://supercollider.github.io/

Re: Interview with the founder of Teenage Engineering

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I sell overpriced aluminum audio equipment And yet everything they make sells out. Almost like it's worth the price.

>And yet everything they make sells out. Almost like it's worth the price. I dont think, A implies B. With great marketing and lower volume production, you could probably make most overpriced, average quality widgets sell out. Doesn't mean that because they're sold out therefore they were priced "right". (as subjective as pricing is)

If you are stripping out all context then no A doesn't imply B but we aren't talking in a vacuum. We are talking about a specific company.

> average quality widgets

Everyone I personally know who has bought anything from teenage engineering has nothing but good things to say about the quality.

Re: Interview with the founder of Teenage Engineering

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I think the work of this company is fragile and shortsighted, encouraging creators to put their energy into a cascade of non-standard paradigms, but without creating any valuable new conventions.

As such I do not enjoy hearing what their founder thinks about anything, or puff pieces about him, like this one. I'm open to being convinced otherwise but all of the new information I receive fits in with the prior assessment - they want your money for a cool looking music toy.

Re: Interview with the founder of Teenage Engineering

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post #73

I think the work of this company is fragile and shortsighted, encouraging creators to put their energy into a cascade of non-standard paradigms, but without creating any valuable new conventions. As such I do not enjoy hearing what their founder thinks about anything, or puff pieces about him, like this one. I'm open to being convinced otherwise but all of the new information I receive fits in with the prior assessme…

I don’t see the problem, though I am also not sure what you mean. What is standard? What should people be doing instead? Do TE’s products differ from other grooveboxes?

Re: Interview with the founder of Teenage Engineering

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Remember this thing? https://play.date/ (Gameboy with a crank) Made it to the front page on here a couple times, if I’m not mistaken. Did this ever ship? looks like it’s been in pre-order for the last three years?

Yes it has shipped.

It says pre-order because they’re shipping in batches so if you order now you’ll get it in a few months rather than right away.

Re: Interview with the founder of Teenage Engineering

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I too would live in a pinterest-ready castle filled with toys but i dont have the stomach to rip off customers as shamelessly as TE is. The B&O of our generation.

> i dont have the stomach to rip off customers as shamelessly as TE is

Yet people buy their products in large quantities, for well over a decade... They are used by top tier artists and consumer alike, and are used on many hit songs.

If you think they're so overpriced, there should be a massive opportunity to undercut them and sell such quality for less. But no one has... Again, for well over a decade...

Maybe they understand products better than people that don't make products.

Re: Interview with the founder of Teenage Engineering

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I too would live in a pinterest-ready castle filled with toys but i dont have the stomach to rip off customers as shamelessly as TE is. The B&O of our generation.

Yep. Ostensibly there's nothing wrong with making pricy hipster audio equipment, but the rampant success of their marketing just makes me facepalm. People out there genuinely think the OP-1 is a $1000 product in 2023, which should inspire riots in the street. The OP-1 Field raising the price instead of lowering it is the last nail in the coffin for me. $800 is a pricy toy - $1500+ puts you in brand-new Octatrack terr…

What you call fleecing the customer, I call charging the market rate.

If your employer offered you a raise, would you turn it down because you don't want to fleece the customer?

Re: Interview with the founder of Teenage Engineering

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post #73

I think the work of this company is fragile and shortsighted, encouraging creators to put their energy into a cascade of non-standard paradigms, but without creating any valuable new conventions. As such I do not enjoy hearing what their founder thinks about anything, or puff pieces about him, like this one. I'm open to being convinced otherwise but all of the new information I receive fits in with the prior assessme…

What’s so wrong with a cool looking toy?

Once upon a time I worked a full time stressful job at a startup and was well paid.

I didn’t have a lot of time for hobbies, but an op-1 would have been a great way to play around with music. I’d have been a perfect customer and very happy with it.

Edit: Looks like this commenter is exactly the way I imagine myself back in the day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34665229

Re: Interview with the founder of Teenage Engineering

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> I sell overpriced aluminum audio equipment And yet everything they make sells out. Almost like it's worth the price.

It’s weird that so many people anchor “value” to some absolute number, centered around their own valuation.

This is a premium product. If you don’t like the price, it’s not for you. But it’s clearly worth it to a lot of other people.

Kind of ironic to read so many complaints about the prices on a website where “charge more” was the mantra in every comment section here for many years.

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