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Re: Gen Z Netiquettes

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Post by mdhb »

gonzo41 wrote: post #48
mdhb wrote: post #10

Might be a bit of a boomer opinion but the thing that kept coming up for me as I was reading that was “damn, that’s a lot of social insecurity built in by default to almost every interaction and conversation”. Not all of it obviously and I don’t even think that’s strictly a Gen Z thing specifically (much of it could have been written about my mother for example) but JFC it sounds emotionally draining way to live your…

Well, it's the world silicon valley built for everyone. And gen z, rightly or wrongly got to grow up with it.

A world of social interactions as defined by people with some of the worst social skills of my generation. Looking at you Zuckerberg.

But yeah, I can see how that’s clearly a recipe for disaster.

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Post by yummypaint »

flumpcakes wrote: post #3

> 9. Capitalizing the first letter in a sentence will reveal where you are This one really surprises me, if someone contacted me without bothering to type a proper sentence I would just think they're an idiot. Everyone I know always starts a sentence with a capital letter, no matter the platform. They all know how to use the shift key. This isn't even gate keeping, people use slang all the time, it is basic English.…

capitalization conveys essentially no information in itself, so it would be a waste to continue mindlessly using it when it could be encoded with additional information. Part of what we are seeing with evolving norms is the fat being cut from written english. is our completely redundant capital chatacter set REALLY being used to its fullest extent right now?

An "idiot" does things without knowing or considering why. People choosing to break old capitalization rules to better communicate are a step above those who can't handle that the english they learned in grade school no longer exists.

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Post by devnullbrain »

Every time some new generation starts to create its own identity, some proportion of the previous dominant generation reacts defensively by attacking it with wilful ignorance and disdain. It's a tragic way to age. Worse than a ponytail and a motorbike.

If you find yourself finding smug, try looking at an old Reddit rage comic/4chan greentext/usenet flamewar, depending on your age.

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Post by groestl »

switch007 wrote: post #49
mdhb wrote: post #10

Might be a bit of a boomer opinion but the thing that kept coming up for me as I was reading that was “damn, that’s a lot of social insecurity built in by default to almost every interaction and conversation”. Not all of it obviously and I don’t even think that’s strictly a Gen Z thing specifically (much of it could have been written about my mother for example) but JFC it sounds emotionally draining way to live your…

Imagine trying to date a gen z with this much anxiety. And when you suggest preferring to meet in person instead of partaking in this absurd communication style, they get even more anxious and suspicious.

If you don't want to text, send wrong cues when you do, and want to move quickly to meet in person, hell yeah this will look suspicious. Millenial here.

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Post by cj »

Gigachad wrote: post #34
Obscurity4340 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will never use any kind of messaging platform that insists on "Read receipts", or even worse, the typing breadcrumbs. Fuck that shit, I'll reply when I'm good and ready, that's a big part of what makes it fun. You never know when you're going to get a sweet little squirt of dopamine == unexpected or surprise reply

Everyone just reads them in the notifications so they don’t mark as read

Can confirm. I have iMessage read receipts turned on. New text comes in, read it in the notification and don't open it until I'm ready to respond.

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Post by dbspin »

groestl wrote: post #65
dbspin wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this often meeting 'zoomers' in person. In contrast to the glued to the phone cliche, they're often enormously attentive, in an almost pained way. Incredibly careful in how they speak and - in accordance with the 'triggered' cliche - very easily upset or offended. Not only by transgression of their numerous linguistic prohibitions, but even misunderstandings about potential transgressions. The simplest way to…

> the worst interpretation something someone says is accurate Well, to give just a few examples: * The worst interpretation of a sentence said by politicians is usually accurate * In contractual law, the worst interpretation of a clause is the one you need to prepare for * In advertising, the absolute worst interpretation of a phrase is usually accurate * If you get a letter of recommendation, the worst interpretatio…

All of those things have been true at least since the dawn of mass media in the early 20th century. I'm speaking about intergenerational change, and interpersonal interactions. Perhaps the difference is that we all now exist as though on the public stage. Either way, perceiving everyday interactions in that way is dispiriting and closes you off from people with different experiences and perspectives. It can make your everyday life - rather than just your online existence - a rigid, carefully managed echo-chamber.

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Post by tux3 »

raverbashing wrote: post #66
tuxxi wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

typing without capitalization can help to create a more informal, somewhat playful tone. same goes for slight misspellings or abbrs instead of spelling out the full word. its just another way to add a small amount of “tone”.

Naturally. But being lazy and not capitalizing first words "just because" is neither of these. Especially when paired with phrases like "who dat". You're just coming across as doing the barely minimum effort to write. Like people that mumble because they can't be bothered with communicating to you.

Not capitalizing on mobile takes extra effort, it is the default.

I'd argue that on a keyboard, it is also showing intention and effort. Everyone is so used to proper capitalization, it comes automatically. I don't have to make an effort to press shift when I press 'I', it's entirely subconscious.

Capitalization is largely unrelated to effort or lazyness. Except for a few extreme cases whose lack of effort is just as visible in the rest of the prose, or the quality of the ideas.

Furthermore, I'd encourage one to spend more effort evaluating the substance of what someone has to say, rather than dismissing their intelligence on account of cultural or stylistic differences. Limiting yourself to a smaller bubble out of disdain seems like self-inflicted imprisonment.

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Post by eschatology »

raverbashing wrote: post #63
flumpcakes wrote: post #3

> 9. Capitalizing the first letter in a sentence will reveal where you are This one really surprises me, if someone contacted me without bothering to type a proper sentence I would just think they're an idiot. Everyone I know always starts a sentence with a capital letter, no matter the platform. They all know how to use the shift key. This isn't even gate keeping, people use slang all the time, it is basic English.…

Yeah I agree Those examples just sound real lazy Gen Z writing The other ones I kinda agree (with measure), but this one is awful. Then they ask why "is it so hard to get a job". Job market issues aside, don't come across as a dork.

> Job market issues aside, don't come across as a dork.

Not disagreeing with you, but I think what constitutes as being a dork depends heavily on the situation (workplace culture, etc.). Writing like a Gen Z doesn't necessarily make one a dork.

I'd argue that the reverse is true: not writing like everyone else (i.e. completely ignoring the so called "Gen Z Netiquette") makes you a dork for being inept at adapting to the new social norm.

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Post by groestl »

dilap wrote: post #14
vsnf wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. It’s written to be funny but I can vouch that these rules, such as they are, are all more or less correct.

i'm millenial/gen-x cusp, and they all seemed pretty reasonable and intuitive to me, EXCEPT number 3 -- a good-old fashioned simple smiley is passive-aggressive and cold to gen-z??

This explains it a bit: https://alicecorner.medium.com/the-slightly-smiling-emoji-is... (especially the Spongebob part)
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