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The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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Post by Helianthus »

chimeracoder wrote: post #66

> Perhaps even better, without the torrent files everyone can soon host a full copy of The Pirate Bay on a USB thumb drive, which may come in handy in the future. I've been saying this for years : governments playing an arms race with hackers is like playing Whack-a-mole or cutting of heads of hydras. Every time you block one means of communication (starting in this case with Napster), a new, more decentralized, hard…

The big players are defeated by the new playing field. There is no "their advantage," there's just a major change in how we produce content.

It's away from exploitation of artists and the control of artistic message.

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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Post by beedogs »

Helianthus wrote: post #71
chimeracoder wrote: post #66

> Perhaps even better, without the torrent files everyone can soon host a full copy of The Pirate Bay on a USB thumb drive, which may come in handy in the future. I've been saying this for years : governments playing an arms race with hackers is like playing Whack-a-mole or cutting of heads of hydras. Every time you block one means of communication (starting in this case with Napster), a new, more decentralized, hard…

The big players are defeated by the new playing field. There is no "their advantage," there's just a major change in how we produce content. It's away from exploitation of artists and the control of artistic message.

The production, the marketing the, distribution... EVERYTHING has changed for the music industry in about 15 years. They have no future unless the Internet is tightly controlled (which it cannot be.)

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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Post by ColdAsIce »

beedogs wrote: post #72
Helianthus wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big players are defeated by the new playing field. There is no "their advantage," there's just a major change in how we produce content. It's away from exploitation of artists and the control of artistic message.

The production, the marketing the, distribution... EVERYTHING has changed for the music industry in about 15 years. They have no future unless the Internet is tightly controlled (which it cannot be.)

" Internet is tightly controlled (which it cannot be.)"

Oh, it can be controlled alright. SOPA, PIPA today, tomorrow FIPA, DIPA and FuckInternetPA. One of them will pass, then more and more.

And then you're sitting on cable tv. Clicked that link? Invoice has been mailed to you. Clicked that link? House search. Clicked that link? Prison cell prepared. Thank you and good bye.

Oh, you will watch what you do online, you will not click on links without knowing before hand what is behind it. Good luck with that. You will not read just about anything, you will not write whatever you want, certainly not where ever. You will censor yourself before they come to censor you. They will produce and you will consume.

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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Post by cookiecaper »

beedogs wrote: post #72
Helianthus wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big players are defeated by the new playing field. There is no "their advantage," there's just a major change in how we produce content. It's away from exploitation of artists and the control of artistic message.

The production, the marketing the, distribution... EVERYTHING has changed for the music industry in about 15 years. They have no future unless the Internet is tightly controlled (which it cannot be.)

The RIAA and other major music industry players may have no future, but there is definitely a profitable future for a "music industry" populated by entities that are willing to adjust to the modification in distribution channels and consumption habits.

As it stands, the old-fashioned fogies are simply in denial and doing their best to prevent the marketplace from changing because they don't know how to use the new technology and they don't know how to succeed in the new marketplace. That doesn't mean that there's no future for the industry as a whole, it's simply the way entrenched players eventually die.

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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Post by cookiecaper »

invalidOrTaken wrote: post #43
gojomo wrote: post #26

Hey! I invented the magnet link, almost 10 years ago. Great to see it still evolving and spreading, based simply on its loosey-goosey merits.

Finding this sort of thing always makes me stop short and realize, "Oh yeah, no matter how smart I think I am, there are people a million times more accomplished than me on HN." Not to make me despair so much as take care to avoid blathering the first thing on my mind before reading and considering what others have said.

Good ideas don't have inventors so much as they have stewards. Keep trying and one day such a thing will find you. :)

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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Post by cookiecaper »

gnoupi wrote: post #67
drewblaisdell wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what if the users sharing the file are also connecting for the first time? It seems like if my friend wants to seed a file and I want to download it, it only works if we knows peers (who know peers who know peers who...) know peers of me. Is this correct?

In theory (assuming that there are links to everyone, and no way to have separate networks) (it's of course a theory only, but seems very likely that there are "massive users", who have files of "every kind", connecting the different groups), as long as you both connect to one who is connected, it will work. Although this is quite the extreme case, and not really the purpose for Bittorrent to begin with, I guess. The…

I've actually found torrents to be a great way to share large files with a friend. There's no invasive upload dialog or locking, no practical filesize limitations other than the free space on my friend's computer, you don't have to upload to a public-facing server before your associate can start downloading, port forwarding is handled transparently by UPnP, client software is user-friendly, easily available, and often already running anyway, and it's easy to scale if another friend wants a copy at some point in the future.

Of course, TPB switching to magnets doesn't really affect this. Torrent files are still used to provide information on the download, they're just distributed from within the P2P network instead of TPB itself. If you have a torrent file to share with an individual or small group instead of the whole world, there's no reason to stop using torrent files directly.

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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Post by tomkin »

bdonlan wrote: post #21
tomkin wrote: post #5

For a brief moment, the title sounded like TPB was going to blackout for "stop SOPA day". Wouldn't that be funny.

If the TPB were to actively oppose SOPA, it would just give the SOPA proponents more to work with - "Look, TPB is against it, so it must be a good thing!".

It is a good point, however, I think it would be celebrated by the target audience. People, or the "average person" who wouldn't generally visit TPB, or know what it is, will probably not really care about it's support, or even what SOPA is for that matter.

For those who visit/use TPB, I think it would be akin to a rally call.

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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Post by GHFigs »

cookiecaper wrote: post #75
beedogs wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The production, the marketing the, distribution... EVERYTHING has changed for the music industry in about 15 years. They have no future unless the Internet is tightly controlled (which it cannot be.)

The RIAA and other major music industry players may have no future, but there is definitely a profitable future for a "music industry" populated by entities that are willing to adjust to the modification in distribution channels and consumption habits. As it stands, the old-fashioned fogies are simply in denial and doing their best to prevent the marketplace from changing because they don't know how to use the new te…

they don't know how to succeed in the new marketplace

Who does, in your opinion?

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