Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

nypost.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

71–80 of 535 posts

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#71

Post by oh_sigh »

Seattle3503 wrote: post #40
NeverFade wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. Everyone in tech knows this is happening, and it's illegal, but nobody will do anything about it. Similar to ageism back in the 2000s.

Have you seen this first hand?

I work at a FANG and there was a reshuffling in my team of 30 people as a new manager came in - there were 5 women/25 men. After the reshuffling, the 5 women became the 5 new TLs of the 5 projects our team was subdivided into. And the manager talks all the time about how he wants to empower women. Not sure if that counts. I guess it could have just been coincidence.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#72

Post by grapehut »

These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this.

I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no interactions with, ever). There wasn't even a sprinkle of truth in the whole thing. I was saved by pure dumb luck, where against all odds just happened to have irrefutable proof one of their claims was impossible which led to her dropping the whole thing. I'm still a bit jaded that there are absolutely zero repercussions of making false claims.

I guess I feel like "Innocent until proven guilty" is a pretty good model and running a story just amplifying one persons unproven claims kind of goes against that.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#73

Post by eh9 »

userbinator wrote: post #53
password11 wrote: post #34

This is why I'm so grateful to work in SWE where skills and progress are somewhat objective. If such a situation occured with my boss I could just resign and have a new job in a couple weeks. Their loss. But in management you've spent years at the company building up to your current role, and you're just kinda stuck with people. Can't imagine how stressful it would be to be in that person's position.

where skills and progress are somewhat objective They are, but then there's this other thing called DEI...

[flagged]

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#74

Post by Thorrez »

SilasX wrote: post #65
couchdb_ouchdb wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After 16 years at Google, i'm pretty sure he doesn't have to work another day in his life.

You'd think, but then you read stories like this, about people who have worked 16 years at Google but still need the job badly: https://www.businessinsider.com/laid-off-engineer-says-googl...

That article doesn't seem to say he needed the job badly.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#75

Post by wrycoder »

0xcafefood wrote: post #38
siva7 wrote: post #7

Seems like no one believes him. Let's be honest: How often have you heard news about a woman molesting a man vs. a man molesting a woman?

In past years, I've seen at least as many news stories about female teachers sleeping with or otherwise abusing their students as I have about a man doing the same. It's possible that's just a "man bites dog" effect, but I suspect stories like that would get aired when either a man or a woman does it.

There aren’t many male teachers left.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#76

Post by jxramos »

NeverFade wrote: post #55
password11 wrote: post #34

This is why I'm so grateful to work in SWE where skills and progress are somewhat objective. If such a situation occured with my boss I could just resign and have a new job in a couple weeks. Their loss. But in management you've spent years at the company building up to your current role, and you're just kinda stuck with people. Can't imagine how stressful it would be to be in that person's position.

> If such a situation occured with my boss I could just resign and have a new job in a couple weeks. Why should you leave your job because a criminal chose to sexually assault you? Yes, you could find a new job, but what if you're months away from a major stock grant, a bonus, completing an important project? Just because you're an engineer doesn't mean there's no penalty to quitting suddenly because someone victimiz…

Usually you mention that sort of compensation opportunity cost and the hiring company can match it with a sign on bonus to make a pain free transition.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#77

Post by ocdtrekkie »

eh9 wrote: post #67
0xcafefood wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Had a manager at one job tell me explicitly that they gave an interview to a candidate but knew it wouldn't move forward to a hire since they wanted to hire a woman. I felt gross hearing and knowing that but it was said and not written so there was nothing I could do about it. And I probably would've gotten fired for raising an issue even if I did have that in writing.

[flagged]

HR roles, like most others, are numbers driven. Recruiters are expected to deliver a number of applicants, interview a number of candidates, etc. This means that yes, they often interview people they have no intention to hire: It makes the HR person look good.

This can happen if they have a diversity hire directive but interview non-diverse candidates, but it can also happen if they want to hire a white guy but have a company directive to interview diverse candidates for every role. Either way, they can say they looked at everyone before hiring whatever candidate they wanted.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#78

Post by [deleted] »

Gunax wrote: post #54
peyton wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In or about June 2022, both Schiestel and Stewart strongly encouraged Olohan to hire only female applicants for an open management position on his team. Not great for Google executives to be doing this.

There will be no consequences for google. We all know this happens. A past suit by a recruiter had emails filed as evidence to the court where recruiters were told to cancel all interviews with candidates who were not women or Black. [1] And yet if you mention this, you're the racist. You're the White nationalist (even though the media celebrates Black nationalism). Even so--they also have lawsuits alleging discrimin…

[deleted]

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#79

Post by Thorrez »

wengo314 wrote: post #11
xeromal wrote: post #2

This specific comment is so annoying >Olohan said he reported the issue to Google’s human resources department the following week, but nothing ever came of the complaint. The HR rep “openly admitted … that if the complaint was ‘in reverse’ — a female accusing a white male of harassment — the complaint would certainly be escalated,” according to the lawsuit.

that is because HR exists to protect the company, not the employee. it would be a big media storm if that aforementioned reverse thing happened.

By making that statement HR was definitely not protecting the company.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#80

Post by jacob_rezi »

grapehut wrote: post #72

These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

What was the proof? Very fortunate indeed!
Post reply on HN