If you send him $10 cash in the mail with a self-addressed stamped envelope, he will send you back one of his business cards, which is a lock pick set. One of my most prized possessions.
$10 is way too much for something so average.
Kevin Mitnick Hacked California Law in 1983
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Re: Kevin Mitnick Hacked California Law in 1983
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
idk about black hat stuff but I owe a huge amount of gratitude to the freenode (now irc.libera.chat) community that helped me learn C++ 12 years ago and to the #linux / #debian / #arch-linux channels to which I go for help even to this day.
I feel like people dichotomize too much... I would never don a black hat, but the world is much grayer than some make it out to be. I simply wish to explore friend :-)
I understand, but afaik libera.chat does not even offer grey hat channels, it's mostly above board but certainly alive and well
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
As far as hacker cons go, Defcon is not CCC Defcon is basically run by a gang that values loyalty and dedication above most things.. which has historically low standards of ethics for their goons and attendees (albeit has improved somewhat over the years)
>Defcon is basically run by a gang No, Derby was run by a gang. (The 303 could probably be RICO'd) I cannot confirm or deny that Defcon is where the event occured, especially since it was technically just an event at a casino, as many things occuring on the same days as Defcon occur. >a gang that values loyalty and dedication above most things.. which has historically low standards of ethics for their goons and atten…
> I actually was told by someone at my last Defcon they were boycotting CCC because they allowed Nazi imagery or something to that effect, which surprisede me given... you know... Germany.
Yeah, there's no way that is true. I could easily see it happen the other way round, some edgy American kid turning up with a swastika shirt, getting thrown out, and throwing a tantrum because muh free speech, when he should be happy he wasn't arrested by the police.
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#74See also: the Yellowstone Zone of Death: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_Death_(Yellowstone)
> Belderrain cited Kalt's paper "The Perfect Crime" to explain why he believed it was illegal to have his trial with a jury from a state other than where the crime was committed. The court dismissed this argument. There's a lot of argument going on about what side of the line this is on, but in the end it seems like courts can just say "we don't care" and do whatever they want?
Well, yes and no. The Supreme Court gets final say should it be appealed that far and they agree to hear the appeal. I am no legal expert, but I think they would hear this case if it got to them.
Re: Kevin Mitnick Hacked California Law in 1983
#75"Hacking the law" seems like a very flowery way to describe "noticing the court has a statute of limitations."
Re: Kevin Mitnick Hacked California Law in 1983
#76If you send him $10 cash in the mail with a self-addressed stamped envelope, he will send you back one of his business cards, which is a lock pick set. One of my most prized possessions.
$10 is way too much for something so average.
Indeed, I would expect something quite precious for ten big ones.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Possibly could be this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EshxZVMURt4 https://popl18.sigplan.org/details/POPL-2018-papers/3/Formal... The city is Los Angeles, though the content doesn't seem to match precisely what was mentioned. I found this via a Google search for `conference convert legal phrases into code "theorem" bug`, which returned the following paper: https://hal.inria.fr/hal-03159939v2/document I then checked…
Yes, it's the POPL talk. Thanks for digging it up for me. I had a nice conversation with her after her talk about her work.
I remember this talk! The speaker recommended doing this with the tax code because it was one of the most mechanical -- very little inherent ambiguity, there's just a lot of surface area to cover, so it's a great candidate for actually applying formal methods to.
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#78As someone with a software development background, I always found legal language very interesting. It is like a very verbose, programming language. All sorts of words and phrases have very specific meanings that, when arranged in a certain order, produce specific, reproducible outcomes. Sections of contracts and laws reference other sections by name and reference, and the whole document (or set of documents) gets int…
I have felt this way as well and wonder why we can't encode laws into some sort of machine code and study it, test it, iterate it, debug it, and optimize it like we do with computer programs.
Because it would end up a weird machine [0]
Re: Kevin Mitnick Hacked California Law in 1983
#79As someone with a software development background, I always found legal language very interesting. It is like a very verbose, programming language. All sorts of words and phrases have very specific meanings that, when arranged in a certain order, produce specific, reproducible outcomes. Sections of contracts and laws reference other sections by name and reference, and the whole document (or set of documents) gets int…
I have felt this way as well and wonder why we can't encode laws into some sort of machine code and study it, test it, iterate it, debug it, and optimize it like we do with computer programs.
It is a fascinating idea indeed.
While Leibniz is widely known for his mathematics and philosophy, one of his lesser known ideas was the relation between law and computation.
There is a small research community around it today. Look up Computational Law and Computational Contracts if you are interested.
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#80No on-line legal research in 1983? Nonsense. It was called "computer-assisted" legal research and at a minimum, there was the following:
Lexis
Westlaw
Juris (DoJ only)
FLITE (Air Force servicing other agencies)
and law review articles were indexed on laserdisc.