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Re: Meta Ending Suspension of Trump’s Accounts

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Post by el_benhameen »

0xy wrote: post #30
el_benhameen wrote: post #24

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Trump-endorsed candidates underperformed in the midterms and in previous elections. Trump talking hurts the party. If anything, keeping him off the platforms until after the midterms helped Republicans.

Maybe they underperformed because the platforms he used to win in 2016 banned him? Make no mistake, Trump won in '16 because of Twitter & FB reach.

Trump endorsees also underperformed in 2018 and 2020. There’s a pretty clear trend. Trump won in 2016 because of his reach on Facebook and Twitter, yes—he was novel and his win was a black swan. But he and his candidates also did poorly in subsequent elections, after the novelty wore off, because of his social media reach.

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Post by miffy900 »

knewter wrote: post #63
krapp wrote: post #12

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I love how everyone just uses the term "sitting president" verbatim now when making this argument, as if the prospect of a president losing their social media accounts is supposed to fill us with dread, sitting or no. It's almost become like a verbal tic. Everything that president said and did was covered by the press around the world, an army of spokespeople and a million online sycophants. He isn't (and certainly w…

> Everything that president said and did was covered by the press around the world, an army of spokespeople and a million online sycophants. Except virtually everyone I spoke to was unaware of what his final posts on social media on jan6 were, they were not covered, and they were lied about for years with no way for the public to see that in fact he called for people to go home peacefully on jan6. You can say things…

> Except virtually everyone I spoke to was unaware of what his final posts on social media on jan6 were, they were not covered,

And who are these people you've been speaking to? Clearly they're living under rocks.

> and they were lied about for years with no way for the public to see that in fact he called for people to go home peacefully on jan6.

"no way for the public to see" ??? This is nonsense - he first called for people to go home on Jan 6 via a televised announcement, then repeated that on social media, before being banned. The TV announcement was covered and broadcast by multiple TV networks.

Just 3 seconds of Googling brings up this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_JxN9CwIMU

Oh and it's CNN coverage, of all networks!

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Post by CamperBob2 »

dang wrote: post #64
CamperBob2 wrote: post #5

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Please don't take HN threads into repetitive, ideological flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

And the reason you sent this message time and not the person I responded to is...?

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Post by dang »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #73
dang wrote: post #64

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Please don't take HN threads into repetitive, ideological flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

And the reason you sent this message time and not the person I responded to is...?

Probably because I didn't see it. We don't come close to seeing everything.

IIRC, this isn't the first time you've responded to a moderation comment by pointing a finger at someone else. I'm happy to answer questions to satisfy curiosity, but not when they're a way of rejecting moderation. We need you to follow the rules here regardless of what anyone else is doing.

If someone else is breaking the rules and escaping moderation (because, as I said, we don't see everything), they'll get caught and moderated eventually. If you want to give us a heads-up by flagging or by emailing hn@ycombinator.com, that's welcome. But please don't take it as an excuse to break the site guidelines yourself; that only makes everything worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by blockwriter »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #32
blockwriter wrote: post #26

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It does mean more than not being imprisoned. For example, if the government came to Facebook and told them to remove all posts by a certain politician, violations of the platform’s rules notwithstanding, I believe that would also be a violation of America’s first amendment.

But that didn’t happen.

Yes, just an example.

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Post by EdwardDiego »

spamuel wrote: post #41
ihatepython wrote: post #35

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Bill Clinton? Bush? Obama? Not at all uncharted territory.

What happened between 2016 and 2020 in the name of making sure people understood that supporting Trump would not be tolerated truly boggles the mind. For three years they used the FBI to threaten his family and jail his friends under an investigation into what we now know was a political campaign weapon falsified by the Clinton campaign. And the FBI knew that immediately as well. With Adam Schiff out there every day…

That's a very well thought out conspiracy theory.
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