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#71
post #9

This is just wrong. What about masked email accounts that you can create with services like icloud or fastmail?

That exact point and even company "fastmail" is discussed in the article.

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#72
Snipers are just as much legitimate customers as anyone else. They only snipe under priced products so if you don't want people reselling them do not sell them for so cheap.

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#73
I have always wondered why pricing can’t fix the issue. On launch day, or for your first batch or whatever, start the pricing higher than you expect most anybody to pay. Target a constant rate of purchase by gradually lowering and raising the price to maintain some target sales per min/hour. Bots and scalpers get stuck holding the bag if they buy on launch day because the price will likely never be higher than what they had to pay to get the product. The company makes marginally more money on launches. People who really really want the product get it at a fair price (they were willing to pay).

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#74
Everything from that Stripe data about IP addresses in Europe is just pure cringe.

Did you know, that at least in my country, nearly everybody is behind CGNAT, so hundreds if not thousands households has exactly same external IP address and this rotates very often. So you constantly have same IP address, which hosts tons of torrents with porn or movies (nobody cares about torrents in my country). etc.

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#75
>Now, think of it from Nike's perspective: they've launched a new shoe and are seeing a whole heap of new registrations and purchase attempts. In amongst that lot are many genuine people... and this guy How can they weed him out such that snipers aren't snapping up the products at the expense of genuine customers?

Is it true that Nike actually wants to cut the snipers out? It seems like they're selling the shoes either way, possibly faster this way, and the resellers are doing free promotion for their shoes in order to resell them.

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#76
post #31

Facebook and Twitter are basically closed to new users. If you've gone this far without an account, your new one will be shut down for being a bot within hours of creating a new account, or flagged for "extra verification" which requires sending a government ID to these companies so they can verify that you didn't photoshop a fake government ID. This new approach seeks to extend this feature to the entire internet .…

I create a new account every 6 months or so on Facebook when my old one gets banned for "violating the community guidelines" and I haven't been asked for an ID ever since 2019. Twitter, though, is way worse and I had to give up and I'm currently just buying aged accounts. Violates even more parts of the ToS than just ban evasion but at least the accounts last for years instead of weeks.

What in the world are you doing to keep getting banned and to also want an account enough that you’ll pay for them?

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#77

I pay for my email that gives me a lot of aliases and most of them have not been pwned yet. So with his tool I would be flagged as a bot. Honestly, doesn't sound like a great idea to be frank. There must be large swaths of people that have either been careful or have specific emails that they use for certain purposes that haven't been pwned. The question, what should happen if I haven't been pwned? Should I not be ab…

I agree, but cats out of the bag.

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#78

Snipers are just as much legitimate customers as anyone else. They only snipe under priced products so if you don't want people reselling them do not sell them for so cheap.

Astonishing how people will argue against their own interests in defence of a free market. If goods are underpriced and snipers are prevented, consumers pay the lower prices. If goods as "right-priced", the consumers pay a higher price.

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#79
> This is called "sniping", where an individual jumps the queue and snaps up products in limited demand for their own personal gain and consequently, to the detriment of others.

This reminds me of Utility Monsters[0]. From Wikipedia:

> the utility monster, receives much more utility from each unit of a resource that it consumes than anyone else does. For instance, eating a cookie might bring only one unit of pleasure to an ordinary person but could bring 100 units of pleasure to a utility monster.

I'm a utility monster, and shops and convenience stores either love or hate us (since the monster consumer derives a skewed amount of utility from certain items). Some stores deliberately up their prices on certain items if they see utility monsters taking advantage, other times, they let the price remain stagnant, in full knowledge the utility monster brings them good business.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_monster

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#80
Profound: "We're all so comprehensively pwned that if an email address isn't pwned, there's a good chance it doesn't belong to a real human."

Should we be using if an email is pwned as input to antiabuse systems to give them higher confidence?

It reminds me a bit of when the % of emails that were #spam vs ham crossed 50% many years ago.

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