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Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look

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Gut reaction: I hate it. But I'll probably get used to it...

Yeah, same reaction for me... I've always liked the small gradients on the top and the long list of things down the left side which I never click. Felt homely. I'll miss it.

I pray that one day colors other than just white and light grays return to the backgrounds of elements on the web. The zealot inside of me also wishes for skeuomorphism to make a glorious comeback, but I may not see that in my lifetime.

Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look

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I sense part of what drove this redesign is the fact that 4K and Ultrawide monitors are now common enough that designing to accommodate them cannot be ignored. That being said, I much prefer left-justification instead of centering the content and having massive whitespace islands to either side. I wish there was an option to left justify.

I'm the reverse of you in that I prefer content in the middle, as I sit in the middle of my screen and prefer to not have to be constantly looking to the left. I agree, personal choice would be nice.

Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look

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My personal problem with it: the sidebar became wider. Now I have to disable it, but when I disable it, it disappears and makes the text lines much wider than what I'm used to. I'm one of those few people who don't maximize the browser to get a good acceptable line width. Wikipedia simply broke this :(

You can set a fixed width view in the preferences which might help a lot.

Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look

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post #41

I browse with Safari on iOS with JS disabled by default. I do this for privacy and accessibility reasons (gotta stop those annoying popup modals, trackers and other annoyances). One thing I noticed with Wikipedia with JS /enabled/, all the sub-categories of a topic are by default, closed. But when I browse with JS disabled, all the sub-categories are /opened/ and I have the full article . Since most people browse wit…

I always prefer the full article, but this is a matter of opinion. The issue is that the behavior is not consistent.

Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look

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> Research has shown that limiting the width of longform text leads to a more comfortable reading experience, and better retention of the content itself.

Is this actually true? I'm curious if anybody has sources for this and if it's a common UX practice. I tend to use wider windows than traditional 8:9 half-screens and this max-width practice drives me nuts.

Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look

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post #52

My initial take: I actually like this a lot. The body text is narrower which makes for easier reading. The sidebar with an updating highlight of current place in document is really nice too. I don't mind the "wasted space": Wikipedia is primarily about reading, and any well typeset book or web page should have generous margins so the line length is not too long.

Text width is important, but this is not a solution, zooming and changing browser window geometry is.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but it is wrong for me. I have a browser with say 8 tabs open. When I switch between tabs, I don't want to have to keep resizing the browser geometry.

Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look

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I don't need a header to follow me down the page, in fact I'd prefer it not to. On the very rare occasion when I need to scroll all the way to the top of the page, I have no problem figuring out how to do that. Feels like they're introducing a persistent UI element without a benefit. Benefit to me, anyway. Maybe they heard from a lot of users who were having trouble remembering where the header was, I can't say. I do…

Note to those not liking this, there is an option in the preferences to revert to the old Vector skin. No idea how long this will be but setting that preference may give them feedback that some users prefer the old layout.

Re: Explore Wikipedia's New Look

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I don't need a header to follow me down the page, in fact I'd prefer it not to. On the very rare occasion when I need to scroll all the way to the top of the page, I have no problem figuring out how to do that. Feels like they're introducing a persistent UI element without a benefit. Benefit to me, anyway. Maybe they heard from a lot of users who were having trouble remembering where the header was, I can't say. I do…

all these changes are geared at mobile. I imagine thats the majority of their traffic now
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