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List of every member of congress who supports SOPA, sortable by donations

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Re: List of every member of congress who supports SOPA, sortable by donations

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post #43

This might be a stupid question, but as a European not all too familiar with US political laws I have to ask: How is it not corruption when senators and congressmens votes can be bought by companies or whole industries?

As others have noted, the money isn't directly coming from companies, but from people who state those companies as their employers. So what's going on here may just be the "correlation does not equal causation" phenomenon.

Re: List of every member of congress who supports SOPA, sortable by donations

#72
post #21

Very depressing. Almost without any exception (I admit there are a couple) every single for or against can be determined by how much money they get from the computer industry(Against) or from the Music / Movie industry (For). All of this happens across party lines...

I'm having trouble reconciling this assertion with the fact that I can open the submission, sort by "online/internet" and it seems that those in the supporters column receive substantially larger amounts of money from "online/internet" than do those opposed.

For one thing, these are donations in the 2010 cycle. Secondly, all of the top-receiving lawmakers in the "for" category are some of the most senior members of the Senate...and/or represent California, which will have high numbers of constituents from both entertainment and online industries.

Re: List of every member of congress who supports SOPA, sortable by donations

#73
post #68
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Knowing what the hell you're doing is, sadly, not required. This sentiment is exactly why they can keep doing it. It reflects an implicit (and unfortunately, widely held) assumption that they're trying to get elected to help their fellow men, constituents and otherwise do good. Sadly, there is no supporting evidence for this assumption, and endless supporting evidence against it.

While I value competence and indeed vote with it in mind, it has not proven to be a prerequisite to getting elected. Understanding the problems is an important first step towards solving them, but understanding alone is, obviously, not enough to fix the problems here.

"competence" on its own does not exist. Congress has shown time and again that they are competent investors (it helps to not be bound by insider trading rules, and to be exposed to non-public info, and actually vote on the results of your investment). They are also competent with their money - 50% of them are millionaires.

> understanding alone is, obviously, not enough to fix the problems here.

Which problem? Are you implying that elected politicians are trying to fix things for the average citizen? if so, why do you think that?

Re: List of every member of congress who supports SOPA, sortable by donations

#75
post #51

Note that Rep. Ron Paul is the only current Presidential candidate that opposes SOPA.

Are you sure about that? Gary Johnson's website implies that he is firmly against not only SOPA, but internet regulation of any sort.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues/internet-and-technolog...

Re: List of every member of congress who supports SOPA, sortable by donations

#76
post #73
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I value competence and indeed vote with it in mind, it has not proven to be a prerequisite to getting elected. Understanding the problems is an important first step towards solving them, but understanding alone is, obviously, not enough to fix the problems here.

"competence" on its own does not exist. Congress has shown time and again that they are competent investors (it helps to not be bound by insider trading rules, and to be exposed to non-public info, and actually vote on the results of your investment). They are also competent with their money - 50% of them are millionaires. > understanding alone is, obviously, not enough to fix the problems here. Which problem? Are yo…

I thought it obvious that I was referring to the problems of the electorate and competence at solving them. Apparently you did not find that to be quite so obvious as I had thought.

Re: List of every member of congress who supports SOPA, sortable by donations

#77
post #75
post #51

Note that Rep. Ron Paul is the only current Presidential candidate that opposes SOPA.

Are you sure about that? Gary Johnson's website implies that he is firmly against not only SOPA, but internet regulation of any sort. http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues/internet-and-technolog...

Implies? So what?

Re: List of every member of congress who supports SOPA, sortable by donations

#78
post #47
post #44

What I don't understand is why these donation amounts are so low. Do these reps really only get around $25k an industry on average? Do they use these donations personally like it's extra pay or for campaign expenses? Is there a lot more money that we don't see?

Something we don't necessarily see is what sort of after-retirement deals they have lined up that may be in the millions. I'm sure there are other sources as well. But in general, politicians are pretty cheap.

Exactly!

Like Chris Dodd becoming CEO of the MPAA who is reportedly being paid $1.5 million a year as his base salary.

Re: List of every member of congress who supports SOPA, sortable by donations

#79
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure about that? Gary Johnson's website implies that he is firmly against not only SOPA, but internet regulation of any sort. http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues/internet-and-technolog...

Implies? So what?

Gary Johnson is a presidential candidate. He opposes SOPA... Thus, there is another presidential candidate who opposes SOPA.
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