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Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by polycaster »

sho_hn wrote: post #57
FamosoRandom wrote: post #53

They can monetize it if they want, but I just want it to not be as bad as DALL-E 2. When using an AI, it's not unusual to have to tinker a bit to get exactly what you want from it. Today, DALL-E cost 15$ to use it 115 times, but 90% of the time you don't really get good images, or necessarily exactly what you want. it means that you're actually paying 15$ for 10 or something image that are actually what you wanted. I…

A Netflix-style model would be a lot nicer, indeed.

Actually, they are laying out their model quite clear in the sign-up form:

- Always available (no blackout windows)

- Fast responses from ChatGPT (i.e. no throttling)

- As many messages as you need (at least 2X regular daily limit)

So I guess this is basically the Netflix style you are asking for.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfCVqahRmA5OxQXbRln...

Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by ghaff »

sho_hn wrote: post #57
FamosoRandom wrote: post #53

They can monetize it if they want, but I just want it to not be as bad as DALL-E 2. When using an AI, it's not unusual to have to tinker a bit to get exactly what you want from it. Today, DALL-E cost 15$ to use it 115 times, but 90% of the time you don't really get good images, or necessarily exactly what you want. it means that you're actually paying 15$ for 10 or something image that are actually what you wanted. I…

A Netflix-style model would be a lot nicer, indeed.

The downside of all-you-can-eat is that it doesn't really work for occasional use.

Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by drexlspivey »

nszceta wrote: post #15
jtbayly wrote: post #4

If I pay them will they remove some of the stupid limitations?

As a commercial entity in the western world they have to appease the social justice warriors or face getting deplatformed and hit with a smear campaign. Don't hold your breath. The unrestricted models will come from China.

They don’t have to appease anyone, they are one of them and subscribe to the same values.

Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by okamiueru »

varispeed wrote: post #51
mensetmanusman wrote: post #2

“However, ever since the chatbot has come into action, it has been negatively impacting students' learning.” This sentence is out of nowhere, did ChatGPT write this article? How could someone think something so new is suddenly negatively impacting students across the board.

> “However, ever since the chatbot has come into action, it has been negatively impacting students' learning.” Aka welp students prefer to learn from ChatGPT rather than our teachers who have poor knowledge transfer skills. I've been using ChatGPT daily and it is an incredible tool. I feel that I learned so much more through that time than if I had to use Google and books.

As long as you can process it in a productive and skeptical way, and not accept it with the same confidence it is presented, it can be a powerful learning tool. However, if it teaches kids to no longer need to structure sentences or logical arguments, and to trust whatever it says. That seems bad in general.

I found ChatGPT to be very useful in two areas:

1. where the problems are simple, and the question requires rudimentary knowledge, but of something very domain specific. Where, I would be 100% able to find a better answer myself by reading up on it, but I can get there 90% of the way, and figure out the 10% that is missing or wrong out of context.

If you don't have the ability to fix or identify that last 10%, you might suffer more for it. You'll get there more quickly, but you end up at slightly the wrong place.

2. When the questions are creative in nature. Suggest an imaginary setting, character, describe properties associated with, etc.

Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by limitedsupply »

FamosoRandom wrote: post #53

They can monetize it if they want, but I just want it to not be as bad as DALL-E 2. When using an AI, it's not unusual to have to tinker a bit to get exactly what you want from it. Today, DALL-E cost 15$ to use it 115 times, but 90% of the time you don't really get good images, or necessarily exactly what you want. it means that you're actually paying 15$ for 10 or something image that are actually what you wanted. I…

Wouldn’t that require a different approach to paying for computation? From OpenAI perspective there is no difference in spent resources whether you are still tinkering or know exactly what to generate in DALL-E. Which seems fair.

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Post by rvz »

So unsurprisingly within 72 hours of my comment highlighting about the first part of my prediction on OpenAI certainly getting more investment as the first phase [0], now they have made the second phase of my prediction becoming true:

> ChatGPT by then will become a paid service [1]

For the third phase, we'll see how the startups building their entire business on top of OpenAI will last even when OpenAI can also compete against their own partners.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34321066

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34201706

Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

dcsommer wrote: post #11
mensetmanusman wrote: post #2

“However, ever since the chatbot has come into action, it has been negatively impacting students' learning.” This sentence is out of nowhere, did ChatGPT write this article? How could someone think something so new is suddenly negatively impacting students across the board.

Cumulative damage may be very small now, at the beginning of this age, but educators I talk to certainly are having a reckoning about it. Whether this will ultimately be bad for education is an open question, but with the way many classes and homework are designed now, students using ChatGPT to answer questions certainly do learn less.

I think ChatGPT could he harmful as-is but the tech can definitely be made vastly beneficial with some changes.

Imagine using it interactively as a study partner or tutor rather than a homework cheat?

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