God damn that is one ugly motherfucker. Why in the world is anyone still squeezing useless numpads onto laptops???
I refuse to buy any laptop without a numpad.
System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns
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The hassle is the relentless debugging and glitchiness after slapping Linux on a Windows computer. System integration is a thing, and it's hopeless for a random user with zero access to firmware and chip/board documentation. Also, the support and open firmware.
System 76 has a ways to go in this regard. My system 76 firm ware feels like abandon ware
Really? That is not my experience with them at all.
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Honestly, the difference between 1080p and 1440p on a 14in screen is barely perceptible to me. I'd rather have the extra battery life.
I run my 1440p screen at 1080p because my portable monitor is 1080p and I don't want to try and setup different scaling on different screens in X or move to Wayland. I'm happy enough.
I've tried it. Don't do it.
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#74I am surprised to see that their chosen configuration does not please everyone's contradictory expectations and desires.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Let me know if you think there's a specific 7000 series chip I've overlooked. The 7040 series, which is Zen 4 & RDNA 3 (so not a Rembrandt refresh) should be available for "thin and light" laptops.
You are absolutely right about that[1]. but strangely, on the 7640U the CPU core count drops from 8 to 6 in comparison with the 6800U. Presumably to make room for the new AI cores? I'm not sure that trade off is right for me. [1]: https://wccftech.com/amd-debuts-ryzen-7045-dragon-range-enth...
The 7840HS is also designed for thin-and-light laptops, according to AMD, and it has 8 cores. It is a "35W" chip, but AMD says it is for ultrathins ("The Ultimate Ultrathin Processor"), and TDP is a relatively meaningless number these days.
That wccftech article is the only one I can find that lists a 7640U (not HS) processor. I think they combined some previous rumors with the actual announced specs by accident. I can't find any indication that the 7640U actually exists.
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#76What makes their stuff so great? I was customizing a gaming rig on their site the other day and it was wildly overpriced. I imagine you can match their specs for this laptop at cheaper prices.
> What makes their stuff so great? I was customizing a gaming rig on their site the other day and it was wildly overpriced. Try customizing an Apple product. It's also wildly overpriced. System76 provides top-tier support. That alone is expensive.
You can't get MacOS any other way reliably. I'm pretty sure you can get PopOS for free. Plus Apple makes pretty unique hardware. This is a totally unfair comparison.
Compare to this instead:
https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/p/laptops/yoga/yoga-2-in-1-seri...
They also have a list of which of their laptops they tested with Linux:
https://support.lenovo.com/pl/en/solutions/pd031426
Again, System76 doesn't have a price yet for their Ryzen 7 laptop so I can't say if this Lenovo is overpriced in comparison. Maybe, maybe not, but given this Lenovo price, I'm pretty sure System76 ain't going below $2000.
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You can. Its for people like me who want a linux laptop, but don't want to go through the hassle of installing it. While I could, I just didn't want to spend the time on it, plus setting up some drivers here and there. Thats the value prop. I got one for home use, (Oryx pro with Nvidia) 4 years ago. It worked well enough and had so few issues I got one for work.
I totally sympathize with the driver compatibility concern, but what is the hassle of sticking in a linux usb drive to install? In general, how serious are these driver compatibility concerns for modern laptop hardware?
When I installed Linux on my first PC that was an operation that involved literal days of downloads and a screwdriver. Now it takes 30 minutes and I do it 3-4 times a year at least.
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#78The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. There have to be other LCD panel makers out there. Either their customers don't care and/or the company doesn't care to make a better laptop.
> The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. I like 16x9. What do you want instead?
Not OP but I guess 4:3 or 3:2. Some people prefer those to widescreens, having more vertical space is better
MS Surface Books are 3:2 for example (2256 x 1504 on 13,5" / 2496 x 1664 on 15"), or some Thinkpad X1 models are 4:3 (probably just the Fold?). The Framework laptop is also 3:2 (2256 x 1504 on 13,5")
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Let me know if you think there's a specific 7000 series chip I've overlooked. The 7040 series, which is Zen 4 & RDNA 3 (so not a Rembrandt refresh) should be available for "thin and light" laptops.
You are absolutely right about that[1]. but strangely, on the 7640U the CPU core count drops from 8 to 6 in comparison with the 6800U. Presumably to make room for the new AI cores? I'm not sure that trade off is right for me. [1]: https://wccftech.com/amd-debuts-ryzen-7045-dragon-range-enth...
It's not strange. x6xx = 6 cores, x8xx = 8 cores; it's a lower tier.
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I totally sympathize with the driver compatibility concern, but what is the hassle of sticking in a linux usb drive to install? In general, how serious are these driver compatibility concerns for modern laptop hardware?
I don't know. I think most machines are pretty well supported. 4 years ago when I first bought one reading through the forums it seemed kinda hit or miss with wifi and sound. especially since my initial machine had nvidia graphics it seemed like a throw money at the problem and avoid headaches. If it was a desktop, I probably would have installed myself. The machines I have from system76 are rebadged "Clevos" (I got…
I don't know about popos but when installing Fedora disk encryption is a one-click option.