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Common Lisp: 2022 in review

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Re: Common Lisp: 2022 in review

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Post by vindarel »

tmtvl wrote: post #63
vindarel wrote: post #60

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excellent point, thanks. It's added. I mostly prepared the post with the reddit history, that means someone missed the opportunity to inform the broader Lisp community there. For Maxima, what could be added?

Maxima 5.46 came out ( https://sourceforge.net/p/maxima/code/ci/master/tree/changel... ) in April. It also had a number of bugfixes and some new features, personally I am fond of getting rid of the python dependency for building the documentation, but I suppose preventing gensyms from leaking and fixing limit going into an infinite loop may be considered more important by some.

Thanks, added.

Re: Common Lisp: 2022 in review

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Post by freilanzer »

sph wrote: post #37
smcn wrote: post #34

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Thank you so much for that! It's something that I'd love to do, especially as there aren't many people using it in production, or at least talking about it, and I think that showing people it's a viable language could be important. It's a shame that we as a community still throw around the Grammarly article as proof of people using it, I wish we had more recent examples.

Same here, I'm interested in the finance angle as well. I've written a few crypto arbitrage bots for fun over the years, and now that I'm deep in the Lisp hype phase, I really want to do it in Common Lisp. I'm already vibrating at the idea of being able to introspect its operation from day 1. Also, now that I've decided to go solo-entrepreneur, there is no one that can laugh at me if I decide to use CL for a core sys…

Another blog I would read...

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Post by p_l »

TurboHaskal wrote: post #41
smcn wrote: post #13

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I was /that guy/ at my last place and I agree that it's not well received. Though once I was writing some lisp to fix a problem we were having and I had a developer beside me and he was blown away by what was happening. I think that the interactivity is something which must be experienced to be fully appreciated. I use it at my current start up and could not imagine using another language. I've become too used to thi…

Unfortunately the average developer is alienated beyond repair. A significant % of developers make a living working on tools to address the lack of interactivity and poor feedback loop of mainstream languages, and actual interactivity is touted as a bad practice by the TDD fundamentalists. edit: My advice to young and overly curious developers: never talk about weird languages at work. I don’t know what’s with it but…

Funnily enough, TDD comes out of very interactive environments of Smalltalk

Re: Common Lisp: 2022 in review

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Post by qart »

kaveh808 wrote: post #67
qart wrote: post #45

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> he was blown away by what was happening Could you recommend some videos of live development with CL that aren't for toy examples? I don't know any lisp, but I'd like to see how different it is from other semi-interactive programming languages like Matlab, Python, etc.

I made some videos of basic CL development. May be too "toy" for your needs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSJcuOLmkl8&list=PLTA6M4yZF0...

Thanks! Turns out, I was already subscribed to you. Just hadn't gotten around to watching videos yet.

Re: Common Lisp: 2022 in review

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Post by qart »

smcn wrote: post #47
qart wrote: post #45

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> he was blown away by what was happening Could you recommend some videos of live development with CL that aren't for toy examples? I don't know any lisp, but I'd like to see how different it is from other semi-interactive programming languages like Matlab, Python, etc.

I'll be honest and say that I don't watch people write lisp so I'm unsure of the current landscape. I remember Baggers being the guy[0]. That may be interesting to you. Recently I've watched a video or two of Josh Betts[1] and while his shirtlessness is confusing, he's pretty good. 0: https://youtube.com/@CBaggers 1: https://youtube.com/@joshbetts1022

Thanks! I'll check them out.

Re: Common Lisp: 2022 in review

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Post by noloblo »

smcn wrote: post #30
noloblo wrote: post #29

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What is the interactivity that must be experienced to fully appreciate

I'd point anyone interested to: http://joaotavora.github.io/sly/ Creating and redefining functions on a running program is incredible to experience. The turn around time for feature is so much quicker because you can, for example, save a web request and continue applying it to functions until you figure what's wrong. You're also able to inspect data just by clicking on it. For example, I can define a class, create an…

Isnt this similar to ipython or ghci or Javascript console what's different?

Re: Common Lisp: 2022 in review

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Post by noloblo »

kaveh808 wrote: post #68
sph wrote: post #46

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A short video is more than a thousand words: https://youtu.be/tmKrF-QAcOk For a longer visual introduction, I have been enjoying kaveh808's videos: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTA6M4yZF0MzsMlNL0N67tIU1...

Thank you. Glad you are enjoying my videos. This longer demo of an early version of kons-9 talks about some CL features: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJe4isZ7NHI&list=PLTA6M4yZF0...

How different is this from ghci or ipython
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