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Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by c0l0 »

If you're looking to buy a LineageOS-compatible phone and are unsure which model(s) to consider, I try to generate an automated buying recommendation (updated daily) from LineageOS's wiki data, available here: https://johannes.truschnigg.info/tmp/lineageos_device_toplis...

The ranking is an expression of my personal preference - with a recently-released phone, it's more likely to receive firmware- and driver-level fixes in proprietary bits that make the phone tick. The number of devs (hopefully) translates into continued support by the project even in the face of single developers abandoning a particular device they maintain.

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by karlicoss »

meltyness wrote: post #5

Has anyone else ceased rooting their phone? It has begun to seem like an unnecessary risk, with the appearance of Android policies necessitating VPN Hotspot make manipulations to nftables, ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnho... ), trusting Magisk, going without Clockwork Mod on many platforms, eschewing security updates. What benefits are you guys reaping from taking root, these days?

I'm rooting to get access to my own data (typically in sqlite databases in protected /data/data partition). Then I feed it into HPI (Human Programming Interface) [1], and from that it gets into my plaintext search system [2] or promnesia [3]

[1] https://github.com/karlicoss/HPI#readme

[2] https://beepb00p.xyz/pkm-search.html#personal_information

[3] https://beepb00p.xyz/promnesia.html

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by bee_rider »

amaranth wrote: post #47
0xcb0 wrote: post #43

I’d love to switch to a Linux based phone. But sadly most of the important Apps will probably never be ported on there. Like my banking or credit cards apps. And all these 2FA apps needed to use them. I think the market is yet too small for forcing companies to bring out a version for a Linux phone. Maybe I should consider just having an old iPhone at home, with apps for doing these authentication. And use a Linux ph…

LineageOS is a fork of Android, not some separate thing. You can set it up to have all those apps work, same as you can after you root a stock Android install.

I’m under the impression (although, no first hand experience, so grain of salt), that some apps will only run if the OS has been signed by manufacturer keys. Or something along those lines?

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by birksherty »

russianGuy83829 wrote: post #31
meltyness wrote: post #5

Has anyone else ceased rooting their phone? It has begun to seem like an unnecessary risk, with the appearance of Android policies necessitating VPN Hotspot make manipulations to nftables, ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnho... ), trusting Magisk, going without Clockwork Mod on many platforms, eschewing security updates. What benefits are you guys reaping from taking root, these days?

working backups.

Yes, this is the main reason for me. I can backup and restore data of any app, on different phone.

Another reason is XPrivacy Lua. Nothing beats it from privacy point.

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by dur-randir »

narag wrote: post #51

I've wasted the best part of the past hour trying to find a phone that's supported and under 200€ in the online page of a nearby shop. Not sure about the reason, there are older and newer phones in both, but never at the same time :-(

There're a lot more unofficial builds, check those.

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by dbeley »

narag wrote: post #51

I've wasted the best part of the past hour trying to find a phone that's supported and under 200€ in the online page of a nearby shop. Not sure about the reason, there are older and newer phones in both, but never at the same time :-(

A refurbished Pixel 4 will fit your budget and is still a great midrange phone

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by dur-randir »

meltyness wrote: post #5

Has anyone else ceased rooting their phone? It has begun to seem like an unnecessary risk, with the appearance of Android policies necessitating VPN Hotspot make manipulations to nftables, ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnho... ), trusting Magisk, going without Clockwork Mod on many platforms, eschewing security updates. What benefits are you guys reaping from taking root, these days?

  - TitaniumBackup
  - ability to monitor battery consumption
  - some dpi evasion apps (they sometimes work where no vpn gets through)
  - packet capture
  - Macrodroid
  - view wifi passwords
  - edit gps.conf, wifi configs, add custom root certs, change default font, etc
  - ssl cert unpinner
  - call recording
  - install Youtube Vanced over original one
  - allow screenshots from any app
  - forbid quick tiles access from lock screen (holy crap, why not all roms have this option??)
  - block custom wakelocks
  - allow app versions downgrade without uninstalling them
You see, half of my phone's capabilities are locked because of "reasons" by Google. But it's me who owns the phone, not them.

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by gruez »

petodo wrote: post #63
yoavm wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Root access and unlocked bootloader are very different things. Many apps need root access to work, and having an unlocked bootloader won't help. On the other hand, installing another ROM requires an unlocked bootloader, but having root access won't help with it.

you can't have root access without unlocked bootloader, simple as that I can access everything as root from recovery with unlocked bootloader without having actual root in system, root just make it more convenient after proper boot

> you can't have root access without unlocked bootloader, simple as that

Various EoP exploits for the kernel begs to differ. That said, even though your statement is broadly true, conflating unlocked bootloader and root access in the OS under an umbrella term of "root" is still sloppy terminology. The terms are related, but don't mean the same thing. For instance, many x86 PCs essentially have locked bootloaders by default (secure boot), but you can still get root access on them because the operating system explicitly allows it.

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by meltyness »

dbeley wrote: post #69
meltyness wrote: post #5

Has anyone else ceased rooting their phone? It has begun to seem like an unnecessary risk, with the appearance of Android policies necessitating VPN Hotspot make manipulations to nftables, ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnho... ), trusting Magisk, going without Clockwork Mod on many platforms, eschewing security updates. What benefits are you guys reaping from taking root, these days?

You don't have to root your LineageOS install, I personally run a LOS device without root. I think some adblocking solutions need root so it might be a valid use case for some people.

Right, but even without userspace root, you'll still have needed to go to Ring 0 and unlock the bootloader.

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by ajot »

narag wrote: post #51

I've wasted the best part of the past hour trying to find a phone that's supported and under 200€ in the online page of a nearby shop. Not sure about the reason, there are older and newer phones in both, but never at the same time :-(

A little tip: follow the XDA blog label LineageOS in your RSS reader. I've found it the easiest way to know which devices have been ported officially. Devices get added all year long, but LineageOS only mention them in their blog in the roster section of the next version post.

https://www.xda-developers.com/tag/lineageos/

https://www.xda-developers.com/feed/tag/lineageos/

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