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Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by iLoveOncall »

powerbroker wrote: post #59
iLoveOncall wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what's the better option? Laying off someone already employed instead? It's not extra shitty, it's just as shitty as any other situation. It sucks for the person involved but the alternatives are not better. At least someone that got their offer rescinded can sue for promissory estoppel.

That is something that works under U.S. law. I wonder if such a remedy is available if tried in a Canadian court. Any Canadian attorneys out there.

There are equivalent laws in most developed countries.

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Post by rmk »

I'm sorry to hear that. Are you a refugee? Why do you say you will be on the streets? I hope you can figure out a temporary work situation to keep you housed, clothed and fed while you figure out what's next. I hope you can conserve the money you will receive and use it wisely, considering it's going to be a substantial amount of money and can see you through the winter perhaps.

It is very discouraging to be caught out in a bad market, and by an unscrupulous employer such as Amazon, but I hope you take some time to step back and enjoy Christmas. Companies often cut with no second thought, especially during recessions, but this is pretty capricious even by corporate standards. Best of luck.

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Post by scarface74 »

gbear0 wrote: post #64

Has anyone tried to add special clauses to their initial contract along the lines of: "If the offer is rescinded before the start date, the applicant will be awarded 3 months salary. If the applicant is fired within 3 months of the start date, the applicant will be awarded relocation fees to previous location." And you'd update that based on costs of moving, or possibly the state of the economy and your risk toleranc…

Unless you are a special snowflake with a unique skillset, why would a company the size of Amazon ever veer from their standard contract?

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Post by [deleted] »

ta988 wrote: post #57

Really sorry to hear that. This is a reminder that you should never work for Amazon if you need a visa. Sadly your story is not the first one I heard. The most recent, a friend of mine was promised they would support her visa application after one year working there (which is really simple and cheap for them) and now they say it is against their rules.

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Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by iLoveOncall »

prng2021 wrote: post #65
iLoveOncall wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what's the better option? Laying off someone already employed instead? It's not extra shitty, it's just as shitty as any other situation. It sucks for the person involved but the alternatives are not better. At least someone that got their offer rescinded can sue for promissory estoppel.

The better option would have been to hire him. How is that not obvious? Amazon as a multi-national, multi-billion dollar company can absorb the expense of employing him. I’m the worst case, they can lay off an existing low performing employee to compensate.

There are already tens of thousands of people that are being laid off in Amazon. The low-performers will go anyway, but clearly it seems like it's not enough.

Training new employees is not a worthwhile investment if you are in the situation where you're already firing thousands.

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Post by hikingsimulator »

phpisthebest wrote: post #44
hikingsimulator wrote: post #6

Sadly, that's the US for you. The corporate world can be a horror show and sympathetic HR is an oxymoron. I hope you can get yourself out of this bind. Still try to enjoy your Christmas if possible.

Showing once again that the Anti-American bias is in full swing this story has nothing to do with the US at all, and the US immigration system is not all that much different than other nations, it is just in the news more because the load on the US system is 100x more than other nations

It's my bad assuming the USA, but it's a fair assumption. USA and Canada have very similar labour systems -- as I said in my other response. The worker treatment in NA is very much different it seems.

In Western Europe, if a contract has been signed, it's very hard for an employer to do what OP suffered through.

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Post by dang »

kidgorgeous wrote: post #3

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Would you please stop posting like this? You've done it repeatedly and we ban such accounts.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

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Post by hnlmorg »

marvin wrote: post #49
qaq wrote: post #23

"Are all places like this?" Well most of EU is not like this...

Salaries are half though, so it's not all roses.

Not when you factor in the cost of living. Just house prices alone are drastically lower than in Silicon Valley.
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