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PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by KronisLV »

Looking at the article, I can't help but to find the summary of the past releases to be really nice:

  PeerTube v1 (Oct. 2018) allows you to create a video platform with federation, peer-to-peer streaming, redundancy, search tools and multilingual interface.
  PeerTube v2 (Nov 2019) brings notifications, playlists and plugins.
  PeerTube v3 (Jan. 2021) adds federated search, live and peer-to-peer streaming.
  PeerTube v4 (Dec. 2021) allows to customise each platform’s homepage, to sort and filter displayed videos, and to manage them more easily.
Kind of makes me wish most software projects had summaries of changelogs like that. For example, for versions of PostgreSQL/MySQL/React/Vue/Java/.NET or anything else - just to see what the most notable features have been in the releases over the years.

Also, PeerTube itself is pretty nice, I'm still hosting v4 for my own needs and use it as a solution for backing up and encoding stream VODs from Twitch. Might eventually get a YouTube account, but still keep it as a backup just to minimize the risk of losing the videos, though storing hours of them does definitely take up some space on my server's HDDs, backups of those included.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by gabereiser »

wolfprogramming wrote: post #54
gabereiser wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only because the ISP's made it that way. Having 1Gbps down and 10Mbps up. You are forced into consumerism of bandwidth instead of a peer. ISP's don't want competition so you'll never be a peer.

Fiber internet often gives you 1Gbps up.

Fiber isn’t available in 95% of the US. They give you 1Gbps up because they don’t really have saturation.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by gabereiser »

HenrikB wrote: post #63
gabereiser wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only because the ISP's made it that way. Having 1Gbps down and 10Mbps up. You are forced into consumerism of bandwidth instead of a peer. ISP's don't want competition so you'll never be a peer.

The asymmetry stems from the days where we connected through the phone lines, which was not designed for data. There it was possible to have a higher bandwidth out from the phone switches than in. That is, dial-up modems and DSL modems could have a much higher download speed than upload. I don't know about cable, but I suspect it's the same there. OTH, fiber-based internet often has symmetric speeds. Don't know the s…

The asymmetry stems from ISDN. Bonding pairs, twin lines, etc etc. that bled over into the dialup era and bled over still into the cable internet era and has even bled over into the satellite era.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by [deleted] »

mschuster91 wrote: post #70
foobarbecue wrote: post #61

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Ah, my apologies, I jumped to conclusions that you were misusing "greylisting". I've never actually checked if I'm getting greylisted sending to large providers, but I think initial greylisting of new addressses is pretty reasonable. My mail server (MailInABox) has postgrey enabled by default, greylisting incoming email each time email is received from a new address. I thought that was a little overzealous so turned…

It might be reasonable, but highly annoying if you run a, say, sign-up double opt-in or an email-based second factor/OTP. Customers don't like waiting an hour or whatever greylisting period, and so as a SaaS operator you are all but forced to go to one of the big e-mail senders like AWS SES because you don't stand a chance otherwise.

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Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by foobarbecue »

mschuster91 wrote: post #70
foobarbecue wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, my apologies, I jumped to conclusions that you were misusing "greylisting". I've never actually checked if I'm getting greylisted sending to large providers, but I think initial greylisting of new addressses is pretty reasonable. My mail server (MailInABox) has postgrey enabled by default, greylisting incoming email each time email is received from a new address. I thought that was a little overzealous so turned…

It might be reasonable, but highly annoying if you run a, say, sign-up double opt-in or an email-based second factor/OTP. Customers don't like waiting an hour or whatever greylisting period, and so as a SaaS operator you are all but forced to go to one of the big e-mail senders like AWS SES because you don't stand a chance otherwise.

Ah, darn... I'm starting a web app with email verification now, using my own email server for sending and I didn't consider this. Thanks for the warning. Guess I'm about to find out how bad it is.

Pretty annoying to test for this reliably as well...

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by DoItToMe81 »

Zuiii wrote: post #67

What are the privacy implications of using peertube for the viewer? Is his IP address exposed to other viewers? Does peertube offer a way to shield viewers from one another?

It's exposed to anyone who cares to packet sniff. There are features for users to opt out of P2P data sharing, but no way to hide the user IP with it enabled, short of the user connecting with a VPN.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by yummypaint »

cyanydeez wrote: post #64
ivoras wrote: post #22

This actually makes me sad :( Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse. It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone. This is how early protocols were designed. Everyone was supposed to…

The current state of cryptocurrency should be enough evidence that people want centralization as it affords the most social investment value.

I think it shows that what most people actually want are banks and brokers, and they don't know or care about how things work on the backend, or understand what banking regulations do for them when they use a real bank. The robinhood crowd and early NFT enthusiasts are in some ways two sides of the same coin.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by tilvids »

skyfaller wrote: post #58
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #18

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Why? From your comment I get that you haven't checked into peertube in a while. There is tilvids.com that is slowly becoming the premier high quality peertube instance that is taking baby steps into being an educational instance. They will gladly host any creator if they align with their goals. Besides, if a cooking creator wants to roll their own instance, invite other cooking creators to join in, tilvids.com would…

Thanks for mentioning tilvids.com! You got me to subscribe to like my second Peertube channel: https://tilvids.com/c/veronicaexplains_channel I'll say that the depth and breadth of topics still seems lacking (lots of meta content about FOSS and the fediverse, which is only interesting to early adopters), but if it becomes easier to start, join, and use Peertube instances, I feel confident this will change over time.

Hey, TILvids here. Veronica Explains is awesome, glad you found their channel!

As far as breadth of topics...you are correct, it's still very FOSS-heavy. That said, we do have some other interesting channels worth following. Here are a few:

Yesterkitchen, dedicated to the history behind recipes! https://tilvids.com/c/yesterkitchen_channel

Let's Talk Philosophy, focused on learning about great philosophers from history! https://tilvids.com/c/letstalkphilosophy_channel

ArtsHole, who covers artists throughout history! https://tilvids.com/c/theartshole_channel

FastPassFacts is dedicated to talking about different historical/social topics from theme parks. https://tilvids.com/c/fastpassfacts_channel

The big challenge is trying to find creators who are willing to use a video site that doesn't have direct monetization. I can talk to them until I'm blue in the face about the importance of controlling your own means of hosting and distribution, etc. but at the end of the day, making content takes a ton of time. They won't do it unless people are watching. So if you want to support alternative platforms, the best thing you can do is USE them, and reach out to your favorite content creators and let them know that you're using them.

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