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‘Significant overload’ caused Norway’s timber bridge collapse

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Re: ‘Significant overload’ caused Norway’s timber bridge collapse

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Post by giraffe_lady »

jessaustin wrote: post #66
giraffe_lady wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My intuition is that the huge iconic ones in globally significant metro areas probably receive closest to an adequate amount of attention and maintenance. I'm much more worried about like, a random 40 foot bridge outside of the second largest suburb of the third largest city in a southern state or whatever. A short fall into icy water or just getting bonked by a piece of the falling bridge at the bottom is less drama…

I'm much more worried about... Various ancient bridges near my rural home have been "saved" by local morons (here they might be called "hillbillies") who organize elaborate campaigns to demand that the highway department not close them despite their ill repair. In some cases an alternative bridge has been built nearby at vastly increased expense, in other cases it just means that only morons use the existing rusted-o…

Well you just sound delightful and open-minded about your neighbors I wonder why they don't value your opinion about it!

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Post by nottorp »

numbsafari wrote: post #21

It'd be neat to integrate ChatGPT into a "bridge builder simulator" type game, and have it generate post-mortem news reports like this one for the bridge failures.

Considering what i saw posted about GPT thingies cost, you'd have to pay a subscription for that game.

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Post by paganel »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #69
paganel wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> than they are figuring out why shit collapsed in the first place. That's what the guy from the YT video is trying to do in the first place, while also naming things for how they really are. > A bridge doesn’t collapse because someone was incompetent or fucked something up. Yes, that's why a thing like a bridge collapses, because key people that were part of the process managed to fuck up. It's as simple as. That's…

The idea of a risk management strategy that involves depending on people to not fuck up is plainly laughable.

Cathedrals were not built based on “risk management strategy”, but on builders not fucking up. The civil engineers that I know of (basically my dad and his friends from his generation) looked up to those builders from the Middle Ages, not to today’s management consultants instructing them about “systemic risks” and “strategy”. Granted, I do not know what today’s generation of civil engineers looks up to.

Re: ‘Significant overload’ caused Norway’s timber bridge collapse

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giraffe_lady wrote: post #71
jessaustin wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm much more worried about... Various ancient bridges near my rural home have been "saved" by local morons (here they might be called "hillbillies") who organize elaborate campaigns to demand that the highway department not close them despite their ill repair. In some cases an alternative bridge has been built nearby at vastly increased expense, in other cases it just means that only morons use the existing rusted-o…

Well you just sound delightful and open-minded about your neighbors I wonder why they don't value your opinion about it!

I have never expressed that opinion to any of them. I have a personal rule, which I'll break now because I am quite curious: why is a crappy old dangerous bridge better than a new safe bridge?
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