First, you should own your domain, to own your email identity. With a domain, Gandi (my employer) includes two mail addresses: imap, roundcube, sogo, sieve filters, aliases,... https://www.gandi.net/en/domain/email
Ask HN: What email service should I use instead of Gmail?
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Re: Ask HN: What email service should I use instead of Gmail?
#72I moved to ProtonMail (from G-Suite) and I'm pretty happy overall. Their Unlimited offering is interesting as it includes VPN, storage and calendar. The few things I dislike about ProtonMail is the search and the fact they don't have the email client app on F-Droid. If you decide to move to Proton, I would advise against importing all your emails (maybe just the last X months). Keep a local backup of all your emails…
Re: Ask HN: What email service should I use instead of Gmail?
#73Just a warning that owning your domain means also owning the security of the domain. If you lose access to eg gmail or they ban you, nobody you care about will access your email. If your domain gets hijacked or you fail to renew, now a bad actor could receive all your email forever. (I use my own domain for email)
Can confirm about the security issues. After having a domain not secured enough being hijacked by wordpress exploit and then flooded by porn and blacklisted by Google and Facebook - happilly I didn't have email on it - I definitely got rid of the idea of having my @owndomain mail adress.
Re: Ask HN: What email service should I use instead of Gmail?
#74I will list some:
- http://mailbox.org (I use it; this is my main provider and my personal domain is setup with them and that is “personal/public mail”. They are decent and private. Their spam filter is not the best but much better than Gmail’s which isn’t really a compliment. Other services on their suite - like doc, notes, storage are nothing to write home about. Though their new pricing tiers is not much less than non-cheap providers. I am on the old pricing tier and I don’t see myself moving to anything else unless they enforce it. Pathetic support - they simply don’t respond most of the times. Well, I guess you get what you pay for.)
- https://tutanota.com (I use it, not on the domain though - and not really for “public” usage. Please know that you just can’t have IMAP access - either use their app, or the web app, no other client - or at least that is how it was last I checked. They are extremely responsible, really good team, keep releasing new features - both for usability and privacy; much better than Mailbox on many aspects. They are really good!)
- https://fastmail.com/ (It’s the “HN Exclusive Favourite”. Too expansive for my usage and that too their first paid tier, which is very limited in features aawy. People swear by their mail client - I have never used it and I doubt I will. I secretly suspect HN has a shill/fan/etc following of these folks here just like Apple has :-D)
- https://protonmail.com (I might move to them if I ever leave mailbox.org. They are good. Because none of these providers are good if you get into the discussion of 5 eyes, 14 eyes, and 7 ears etc; I am not saying you should not but then you would end up with zero providers or just one like riseup.net or so or maybe not even that. RiseUp is great though, I donate to them and have a “non-public” email with them which I barely use.)
- Zoho (I’d say stay away; I’ve reasons, some of those reasons might be off-topic for hn)
- https://purelymail.com (If it wasn’t a one-person setup, I’d have definitely tried them; a friend uses them and he says it’s excellent; very good/transparent pricing and he is happy with help/support)
- Migadu (has very questionable daily email quota on their base plan. I would not want to deal with that and hoping for an exception or that it is not really enforced)
My use-case is not hiding from state actors, because I can’t. I am not that skilled or motivated. If yours is similar, I highly recommend pick one of mailbox, protonmail, fastmail.
Finalise a domain now (preferably something that lets you keep your whois data private) and never renew for less than 2 years at once. Have different kinds of backup email with your domain registrar e.g. gmail, icloud.com (if you have one) etc; 2FA; your phone number (in my country it’s easier to kidnap someone and torture for few hours to days to get the password than SIM hijacking/sppfing, you mileage might vary),
Re: Ask HN: What email service should I use instead of Gmail?
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can confirm about the security issues. After having a domain not secured enough being hijacked by wordpress exploit and then flooded by porn and blacklisted by Google and Facebook - happilly I didn't have email on it - I definitely got rid of the idea of having my @owndomain mail adress.
How do you socure it better? I have mine on Porkbun.