Live data from Hacker News

Chris Seaton has died

twitter.com

71–80 of 213 posts

Re: Chris Seaton has died

#71

https://twitter.com/ChrisGSeaton/status/1599108759183577088 I didn't know him but recognized the name from HN.

I saw this tweet just randomly in the AI timeline and brushed it off as him just being busy/done/taking a break from open source ruby work.. maybe moving on to something else or just picking a different hobby. Quite a shock to see this today

Re: Chris Seaton has died

#72
post #26

About 10 years ago he started a project with Ruby running on Graal before it was known as TruffleRuby. I still remember those HN submissions. SubstrateVM, Graal, The VM to rule it all. And as far as I am aware, he was the only one putting all papers about Ruby and Compilers Design in a single place [1]. I still remember a thread which I have bookmarked somewhere, where you have the lead of JVM, Graal, TruffleRuby, JS…

As a fellow Rubyist and HN reader I know what you mean! There was always something mindblowing from Chris in the thread, usually multiple things. There's a big hole in my heart today.

Re: Chris Seaton has died

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The outpouring of love in the replies on that thread. It is tough to comprehend how that wasn't enough to prevent this.

The depressed sees the same events quite differently, that's why it is so difficult to understand for many people (I can though).

Indeed. The human mind is wildly talented at lying to us in sometimes sinister ways.

It's hard to imagine if you haven't been there, but in the moment you are seriously thinking about it, your mind can truly convince you that your family/spouse/kids/friends/work/church/etc will all be better off without you, even though that is virtually never true. Don't trust your mind when it tells you things like that.

Re: Chris Seaton has died

#74
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that is very seldom the case. Depression is cyclical. There are moments of joy and content. I think it speaks to a loss of hope in society at large.

There are moments of joy and content, but for myself I always personally know that hell is just over the hill. Doesn’t mean I can’t enjoy things. But I suppose there comes a time when some people just get too tired of it all. I also personally believe the act of taking your own life is utterly courageous… every cell in our body’s are designed to want to live. Pushing fast fear of the ultimate unknown is something els…

Being downvoted for these points is a clear (and uncomfortable for mentally healthy people to digest) example of why depressed people often feel it’s pointless to speak and be honest about their thoughts. Because they feel no one wants to hear them.

Re: Chris Seaton has died

#75

My god this is awful. He was brilliant, accomplished, and kind. A few days ago he announced his 'permanent rest' ( https://twitter.com/ChrisGSeaton/status/1599108759183577088 ). I'd thought it meant from the Ruby community and that the replies asking if he needed help were reading too much into the wording.

Oh no. I read the initially and thought it was about twitter. :( rest in peace.

Re: Chris Seaton has died

#76
post #27

He basically announced his ‘permanent-rest’ via twitter. So sad but grounding for all of us to remember that there are things way more important past the marvelous inventions we can code or make. For learning purposes, anyone knows what was his major cause of frustration?

Suicide is very personal, should be treated as an extremely complex issue that its uniqueness for each cannot be expressed in details correct enough to respect the regretted. I know you just want to know if any major points could stand out to bring some understanding, and they are probably some, but it's important to treat it as a might be relavant, but always small, piece of a the vastness of one's mind can be.

I would have agreed fully with you for most of my life, but having now lost half a dozen friends to suicide, I think we're making a big mistake by not talking about it honestly and openly. Not only is it much harder for the friends/loved ones who are left in the dark about what happened, but it misses opportunities for learning and understanding. Most people who have never been ready to kill themselves have no idea what it's like, the hopelessness, the weariness, and worst of all the lies your mind tells you.

I do insist on being classy and respectful, particularly for the family members, but I wish as a society we would talk openly and honestly about these issues instead of high opacity implications.

Re: Chris Seaton has died

#77
post #71

https://twitter.com/ChrisGSeaton/status/1599108759183577088 I didn't know him but recognized the name from HN.

I saw this tweet just randomly in the AI timeline and brushed it off as him just being busy/done/taking a break from open source ruby work.. maybe moving on to something else or just picking a different hobby. Quite a shock to see this today

everybody did. it's horrifying now, but people as smart as Chris that are going to do it, are going to do it. They know that tipping the hand too early will result in forced prevention (something we as a society have messed up about but that's a separate post). He worded it that way on purpose. In my opinion as a kindness so he could say goodbye rather than just disappearing without a sound.

Re: Chris Seaton has died

#78
Desperately sad news. I never met him, he never met Me, but https://chrisseaton.com/army/ made a real impression on me. It’s the kind of thing that sits in your head and pops up from time to time. I found the level of dedication here alongside his professional success incredibly inspiring. Tragically, part of that article is about his young daughter.

Not really sure what to think now.

Re: Chris Seaton has died

#80
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having been on the other end of it... the reality is harsh. People say they want to know, but in fact... they mostly don't. The reality of it is hard to deal with. It can go on and on. People have a lot of misconceptions, sometimes for good reasons (it makes life easier to endure). It's a lot like the pushback on #metoo or #blacklivesmatter or . They want to make it your fault because then its not something they have…

I agree with this. Someone reaching out because they have a problem or need someone to talk to is perfectly welcomed. Someone who does so daily becomes a big f'ing drag on your life, pardon the expression. My father did that to us kids after divorce, and our relationship has never been the same. (For those curious, he didn't hurt himself, just became an angry, sad, drunk yearslong drag on us all).

No post body was provided.
Post reply on HN