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Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by grepLeigh »

philosopher1234 wrote: post #62
grepLeigh wrote: post #60

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Therapy can help break this mindset and cycle. Highly recommended if you feel stuck, or like your past is shaping your future in a way you don't want. Therapy is like having a personal trainer for your mental fitness. https://twitter.com/Theholisticpsyc/status/15941596755867934...

I agree. psychoanalysis has saved my life. But on a national scale? If therapy is the solution, we are sorely lacking in therapists.

Agree - I wish I could pick how my taxes were allocated at a granular level. Therapy and other forms of mental health/wellbeing support would be at the top.

I reckon history will look back at last 20 years as a "Hopelessness epidemic" with social/environmental causes as complex as current obesity epidemic in the US.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by wskish »

HaZeust wrote: post #67
wskish wrote: post #57

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I see that whiteboard as a mechanism to help build a shared mental model for all assembled. Everyone there has seen some previous unknown revision of architectural diagrams, and has their own partial model of the system. Due to the urgency at hand, they all need to have a crisp shared model of the important parts, down to the naming of things.

That's a hell of a hand-wave. But for Twitter's sake, I hope you're right.

I am just imagining how to start a meeting with the remaining 25% skeleton crew of technical folks. Seems like drawing a map of the system and allowing various folks to contribute their part would be a super positive experience all around. What would be other alternative explanations?

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by scarab92 »

yongjik wrote: post #65
scarab92 wrote: post #30

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I guess different people want different things, but I would have flown across the country to be in that room at 1am. A startup sized team working on a platform with twitters scale for a boss with capital and a willingness to consider new ideas? Once in a lifetime opportunity.

> A startup sized team working on a platform with twitters scale for a boss with capital and a willingness to consider new ideas? Willingness to consider his new ideas. Not your new ideas. He's the idea man, your job is to implement it. And if you tell him why the idea may not work as intended, you're fired.

This is silly. Companies like Tesla and SpaceX don't succeed without a willingness to consider new ideas. They clearly aren't the result of one man's ideas alone.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by bleah1000 »

It's kind of sad to see so many people just take this story at face value. Is it really 1am? I could certainly believe it, but some random picture doesn't make it true. Also, even it is 1am, it's possible that work ended hours ago, and that some people are staying late to talk to Musk. Who knows, but to assume that everyone is being forced to stay, maybe, maybe not. I guess I'd like a little evidence.

The number of people saying all of these completely unsubstantiated things about Twitter, and everyone believing them without any questions is weird.

In addition, how could this person know if mostly H1-B workers are present. I certainly can't tell who is and isn't on a H1-B. Or is it because the bulk of the people are not white that this person assumed they were? That seems like an immensely racist assumption.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by toomuchtodo »

yftsui wrote: post #44
toomuchtodo wrote: post #7

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Per US. Citizenship and Immigration Services, around 300 employees at Twitter are working under the H-1B visa. My note: I am aware of someone at Meta attempting to reach out to these folks to interview for offers to transfer their visas. Very kind of folks willing to do so. Source: https://www.uscis.gov/tools/reports-and-studies/h-1b-employe...

This data apparently is not complete, if you search Amazon it returns 646 employees, a random Amazon high rise building has more H1-B workers than that count.

The number is likely somewhere between 300 and however many Twitter employees are remaining (~1000?).

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by georgeg23 »

wskish wrote: post #72
HaZeust wrote: post #67

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That's a hell of a hand-wave. But for Twitter's sake, I hope you're right.

I am just imagining how to start a meeting with the remaining 25% skeleton crew of technical folks. Seems like drawing a map of the system and allowing various folks to contribute their part would be a super positive experience all around. What would be other alternative explanations?

Only about 70 employees showed up (out of 7500 a month ago).

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by wskish »

bern4444 wrote: post #36

Lots of comments on how hackathons and late night sessions were fond memories for people. The difference is those events were chosen. If you are forced to remain at your company (due to visa issues for example) being forced by your CEO to stay at work until 1am is atrocious. This is not a profession where being at the office this late is the norm and it's not typical for the environment. Twitter is not a startup in a…

There is a more simple explanation: that these are the folks who actually want to go "hardcore" and build to some actual vision.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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bern4444 wrote: post #36

Lots of comments on how hackathons and late night sessions were fond memories for people. The difference is those events were chosen. If you are forced to remain at your company (due to visa issues for example) being forced by your CEO to stay at work until 1am is atrocious. This is not a profession where being at the office this late is the norm and it's not typical for the environment. Twitter is not a startup in a…

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Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by stemlord »

sys_64738 wrote: post #40
treeman79 wrote: post #35

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Got put on corrective action for refusing to stay until 1am . For the second night in a row. Company was in a bad part of town. Most of the people were just goofing off anyway. Wiped computer. Went home and emailed that I quit. I’m not giving up time with kids and getting shot so boss can meet a deadline.

> Most of the people were just goofing off anyway. This ^ or the fact that such hours usually yield low productivity so are a waste of time. Working long hours just because is not my thing.

Right, every time I felt trapped working on a problem into the evening became MUCH more easy to resolve the very next morning after a good night's sleep and the ability to seek outside help/resources from others who are also at work at that time
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