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Re: Consider working on genomics

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At least one of the entities on that list is a nonprofit academic institution. Expecting pay equal to the standard software industry is misguided. Whether or not that's a tradeoff you're willing to make is another question.

And three of them are FAANG. They could certainly afford it.

And they pay their standard rates.

Re: Consider working on genomics

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20 years ago I got interested in "bioinformatics." I loved learning something about molecular biology, after all those years of hearing about DNA and not understanding it. And "Molecular Biology of the Cell" is, hands down, the greatest textbook ever written. That said: a lot of the comments are spot on. You're working in a field where the hard scientists and business people rule and you're a helper. Maybe they're gr…

>Molecular Biology of the Cell

Tangential, but what are the chemistry prereqs to grasp this book?

Re: Consider working on genomics

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I have a BS in neurobiology but have been working in software for 20 years. I'd always wanted to get into a more biology-focused software after interning at NIDA (NIH) and saw how bad the software support was. I spent most of internship developing software to make it easier to digitize the dozens of giant drawers full of index cards where they recorded all their raw data.

The problem is that the organizations involved in this sort of work often still consider software development as a cost center and therefore do not offer competitive salaries.

Re: Consider working on genomics

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Or, and hear me out here for a second, people go where they’re most valued. Why would someone volunteer to go work somewhere where they’ll get less money, have less flexibility, be treated as second-class employees, have less work perks, etc. when so many alternatives exist? Doubly so in this economy. Maybe genetic companies should catch up in workplace etiquette instead of recommending that SWE’s lower their expecta…

At least one of the entities on that list is a nonprofit academic institution. Expecting pay equal to the standard software industry is misguided. Whether or not that's a tradeoff you're willing to make is another question.

The problem is that it isn't just about pay, it's about everything: autonomy, flexibility, culture, work quality, respect... If an organization can reliably convince—show, not tell—that it will be a much better place to work overall, I'm certain they can hire highly skilled engineers even if they can't compete on pay.

My experience is that most non-tech organizations can't or won't.

Re: Consider working on genomics

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I've worked on genomics, at the Broad. Can confirm there is a ton of toxicity. There's also a lot of smart and great people, if you can find a team specifically dedicated to software I would recommend it. Also the pay is good...for a non-profit.

More broadly...shortages like this aren't because SWEs just love ad-tracking and hate health improvements. People need to be willing to pay for these services (case in point; the jobs link for AWS has 3 links which appear unrelated to genomics, for Microsoft there are 2 for interns, and for Google its empty).

There are a lot of opportunities in biotech for SWEs, and many firms (though not all) really do respect the power of software. Worth looking around if you're interested in the area.

Re: Consider working on genomics

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I have a degree in biochemistry. Would love to combine my passion in software and biology, but academic research is often funded by governments which means the salary is (super) low.

It's the same reason why there's a lack of qualified computer science teachers in schools.

Re: Consider working on genomics

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The author completely neglects the downsides: - The compensation absolutely do not match the workload and education required. - The sheer number of disreputable PIs and their unrealistic goals for software. - The data is likely questionable and often underpowered. - Institutional politics. everywhere. - Marketing ("Curing Cancer"). The role is actually just juggling various bioinformatics file formats.

> The role is actually just juggling various bioinformatics file formats.

I need an advanced degree for that?

Re: Consider working on genomics

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Most of the discussion here seems to assume bioinformatics / genomics jobs are academic, but I work for a clinical testing lab where production-quality code is a must. We're probably a 10/12 on the Joel test.

If you're into bioinformatics or genomics, but aren't excited about an academic setting, take a peek: https://recruiting2.ultipro.com/ARU1000ARUP/JobBoard/62cc791...

We hire fully remote positions and starting salaries are about US$100k.

Re: Consider working on genomics

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I’ve had a growing interest in the power of DNA and what the data can be used for since discovering no less than 3 family secrets (one of which pertaining to me) after taking an Ancestry DNA test. Did I know I was going to find 18 half siblings the moment my results came in? Nope, but yet there they are, listed in order of most shared DNA. Despite my interest, I’ve found that landing a job in this field at my desired…

Yeah, I agree, I looked into this before, and the pay doesn’t come close to other swe jobs, as far as I have seen whenever I look. It is usually like 2x less, it’s hard to want to choose that just to work on something a bit more interesting. I even have a background in bioinformatics, but I never found anything that compensates it as much as pure swe roles.
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