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Mighty Retrospective

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For the price of Mighty you could... buy RAM.

Isn’t The ram on most laptops these days soldered in because it’s cheaper to build it that way then to actually build slots.

Even if you bought a cheap laptop with soldered-in RAM, you can always invest the $35/month towards buying a new laptop with reasonable specs.

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I appreciated this commentary. When the news from Suhail came out as quite sudden, realistically there's a team under a struggling company working tirelessly to fulfill their vision.

It sounds like M1 was the nail in the coffin - though you'd think this is a normal question for an investor to ask re defensibility when deciding to invest in the company (a version of the classic "What if Google entered your market?"), and thus something they would have had rebuttals for?

I'd argue that this isn't a retrospective in it's truest form. I would like to have a piece that's more about the metrics, like what sort of churn they got, how was their launch perceived, what sort of market research they did/ didn't do etc. These sorts of pieces would help make the lonely startup world more transparent and accessible (it's easier to do this after the fact, rather than when keeping up appearances when trying everything to keep a company alive). Perhaps Suhail will bless us with this at some point.

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From my experience slow laptops are slow not because of the cpu (I mean, we’re not running a chess engine here…) but slow disks and slow/not enough RAM, which compounds the disk issue as soon as you start actively swapping… which in some of these is about as soon as the OS boots. Like, I just loaded up the Best Buy app and 3 of their top 10 selling laptops only have 4GB of RAM. I haven’t used a computer with that lit…

People want cheap things, and the manufacturers comply. But if you set a minimum baseline (i5/Ryzen 5 + SSD + 8 GB RAM), you’re unlikely to get a dud.

I'd say it's worth to go to 16gb but otherwise I agree.

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I wish Mighty had succeeded for a different audience. The core value prop "make figma faster" was not very compelling--people who need to use Figma can buy a mac. You know who does struggle with slow computers and memory issues? Call center employees who have to run Front, Slack, Chrome, and probably one or two other electron-based apps. At our startup (not in USA), these issues are so bad we've ended up getting peop…

The browser focus was peculiar since there seems to be little room to generate enough value to justify the cloud costs. I'm surprised they didn't try to pivot to another initial market en route to building a general cloud PC. My company ( https://softdrive.co ) is in the same space - our initial focus is on empowering companies running high end graphical workloads (BIM, CAD, etc) using cloud PCs. Curious why per minu…

The call center might be seasonal (e.g. tied to ecomm sales). If your revenue is lumpy, ideally you'd make your costs that way too.

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I wish Mighty had succeeded for a different audience. The core value prop "make figma faster" was not very compelling--people who need to use Figma can buy a mac. You know who does struggle with slow computers and memory issues? Call center employees who have to run Front, Slack, Chrome, and probably one or two other electron-based apps. At our startup (not in USA), these issues are so bad we've ended up getting peop…

They should have been competing with Citrix and others in the B2B space rather than in the B2C space with MacBook users. I am not sure why they didn't, even with something like Citrix they could outcompete it on UX alone, like Zoom did with Webex, ie lower latency, it "just works" etc.

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post #72

I appreciated this commentary. When the news from Suhail came out as quite sudden, realistically there's a team under a struggling company working tirelessly to fulfill their vision. It sounds like M1 was the nail in the coffin - though you'd think this is a normal question for an investor to ask re defensibility when deciding to invest in the company (a version of the classic "What if Google entered your market?"),…

he addressed this in a thread about the shut down

https://twitter.com/ishish/status/1591841784967352320?s=20&t...

Q: It was a great product I was a paying customer. I used it like crazy on my old MacBook but as soon as I upgraded to an M1 Pro it didn’t feel as a must have for me and wondering if you found that with others

A (Suhail): We did but the mac market isn't as big as the PC market so it wasn't a critical factor in the decision but certainly had an impact as mac users.

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The offered value was simply not worth what they were charging. I would venture to say that it would be difficult to sustainably charge anything at all for this. For most people, the alleged slowness of Chrome is good enough. Why would the normal person go through the hassle of paying for an experience that was only marginally better than something that was available for free? Their best bet was an ad-based model but that comes with its own set of drawbacks.

In general all alternative browser products that charge money face the same issue. Netscape already tested this business model in the 90s.

For this reason and for many people this app was DOA from the inception. The founder should have carefully considered this criticism instead of disregarding it and using it as "fuel" https://twitter.com/Suhail/status/1196458286347776001

Sadly it seems his new startup is jumping on the trend of generative AI. This is another product category that is doomed to failure yet has tons of tech industry fanfare (similar to web3, which is on its deathbed). For most professional artists, it's not hard to do the actual drawing, the difficulty is coming up with the subject matter / concept for the drawing. Generative AI may have a market for low quality yet high volume content creators that auto-generate content on YouTube or other social media for a modest living.

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Mighty was great. If they had a Windows/Linux port it would be killer as it would have allowed you to run all kind of apps without carrying a $1.5k computer around. That was the dream.

I'd also expect their pricing to go down given economies of scale.

I lowkey wanted them to be super ambitious and one day roll out their own chips and become a full stack computer company.

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> Intel/AMD chips are bad and not getting that much better (this one is true, but missed the mark entirely because of Apple silicon throwing a curve ball) Define "bad". I'm on a 2019 MB Pro with an i9 with 32G of ram. I pretty much never have browser performance issues that bother me. I have Chrome open with 2 windows and a total of 39 tabs, plus some other apps that people always like to bitch about resource-wise (S…

2019 MB Pro with an i9 with 32G of RAM You know that's a very expensive laptop, right? Like more expensive than 99.9% of all laptops. Of course you don't have a problem. I think Mighty was always a weird project that pretty much only solved a problem for people that would never be willing to pay for it. Amen. If it could have been, say, $10/month or less it would have been great for people who can't afford a fast com…

Expensive, but basically obsolete now, thanks to the M1. I had a 2019 MB Pro (i9, 32 gigs RAM) as a dev machine. It was terrible: fans running constantly, throttling. My M1 Pro machine is soooo much better.

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Mighty would have been huge imo if they just waited a bit longer and pivoted to powering browsers inside of mobile VR/AR all day wear devices, like the upcoming Apple visor, where there are basically no resources available to be used for things like figma yet having a fast, scalable browser anywhere would be amazing.
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