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Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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Also Elbit System released a promotional video on Lanius drones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4McPHBQ9pNw I find it very intersting how AI can augment modern warfare. Drones + AI wins wars with minimal damage.

> Drones + AI wins wars with minimal damage.

Or in Israel's case, according to Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, maintain an apartheid system in a cost effective and efficient fashion. Kudos to them, they are pushing the state of the art here...

https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/isra...

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apart...

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I'll start by saying that we all hope for the end of violence, don't let internet trolls that spread hate blind you to the possibility of respectful co-existence, but I just wanted to share a "Fun fact". There is an entire branch of the IDF responsible for border sensor and control systems, and operation is done mostly by women. Be truthful, you imagined a man being behind the trigger.

there must be some discriminatory attitude within israeli military which women are thought unsuited for certain jobs so they direct them to indoor jobs in which they can safely participate in killing christians and muslims

Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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I'll start by saying that we all hope for the end of violence, don't let internet trolls that spread hate blind you to the possibility of respectful co-existence, but I just wanted to share a "Fun fact". There is an entire branch of the IDF responsible for border sensor and control systems, and operation is done mostly by women. Be truthful, you imagined a man being behind the trigger.

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Tear gas and sponge-tipped bullets are used by police everywhere, including New Zealand of all places. Al Jazeera is literally Qatari government propaganda and there’s substantial evidence that DCI Palestine is tied to terrorist groups ( https://www.reuters.com/world/finnish-christian-charity-cuts... ). Don’t let propagandists blow tragic accidents out of proportion to scapegoat the Jews

What makes Israel somewhat unique is the readiness with which it deploys “less lethal” weapons. I don’t think New Zealand regularly tear gasses large areas under its control, or fires sponge-tipped bullets into crowds. And, as a Jew: Israel is not “the Jews.” They’re a country, one that does not represent my interests, or the interests of millions of other Jews.

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Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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Also Elbit System released a promotional video on Lanius drones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4McPHBQ9pNw I find it very intersting how AI can augment modern warfare. Drones + AI wins wars with minimal damage.

> Drones + AI wins wars with minimal damage. Or in Israel's case, according to Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, maintain an apartheid system in a cost effective and efficient fashion. Kudos to them, they are pushing the state of the art here... https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/isra... https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apart...

Amnesty International lost its credibility after accusing Ukraine in war crimes while saying nothing on Russia. I group it with the BDS and other fake human rights movements.

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post #52

I'll start by saying that we all hope for the end of violence, don't let internet trolls that spread hate blind you to the possibility of respectful co-existence, but I just wanted to share a "Fun fact". There is an entire branch of the IDF responsible for border sensor and control systems, and operation is done mostly by women. Be truthful, you imagined a man being behind the trigger.

I’d think that IDF having a lot of women in its ranks (compared to other countries) is one of the better-known things about it, so it’s not that surprising.

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"only" Israel has killed babies with tear gas and maimed children with sponge-tipped bullets before. This will continue as there wont be any consequences at all for the sadists operating these guns. Previously they could at least be caught on film and the outcry would force some kind of investigation. Now there is not even that and no one will be held responsible for maiming children. This is precisely why the Israel…

“Sadists”? Please, can you sensationalize this more?

There is evidence that a not insignificant number of Israelis (European settlers) participating in the frequent state sponsored massacres of the indigenous Palestinian population are sadistic. E.g., The Israeli snipers wearing t-shirts during the Cast Lead massacre of Gaza civilians which pictured a pregnant women in the cross hairs of a rifle with the caption, "One shot two kills".

No. Israel is not unique in the horrors it inflicts upon innocent people. But, it is unique both in the recency of their colonialist project (the Palestinian's land was stolen from them, by the European settlers, within the lifetimes of some Palestinians), and in how Israel has weaponized historical European massacres of Jews to deflect criticism of its horrific practices. People should not give this a free pass.

It is not anti-Semitic to criticize, the state of Israel, the actions of its soldiers, its apartheid laws which grant rights to Jewish citizens that are not extended to non-jews (even the minority of Palestinians who did not flee their homes when the Jews forcibly were taking homes at gunpoint, and so are now considered Israeli citizens do not get the same rights as Jewish Israeli citizens), their extreme far-right government with theocratic influence which periodically engages in massacres of civilians, their racist Knesset (parliament) members who e.g., threatened one of the very few Palestinian-Israeli representatives with rape and murder for opposing their sadistic illegal (per international law) group punishment of Palestinian civilians. Remember when Netanyahu said, he was going to, "put the Palestinians on a diet"? This was a euphemism for Israel was going to starve them, since Israel controlls all borders into their open air prison-- sadistic?

Historically being horribly oppressed does not excuse horrible violent oppression of a population that had nothing to do with your own oppression. It would be like the Apache rounding up, at gunpoint, the Belgians into concentration camps, and settling into their former homes. Then, periodically engaging in massacres of unarmed Belgian civilians confined in the camps-- all the while referring to the historic massacres by the United States of Apache as an excuse for their violence against the Belgians (Yes, if it were Congolese, and not the Apache, they would have every justification to retaliate violently against Belgium, just as if world Jewry decided to retaliate against Germany, there would be justification, but to attack an innocent third party is simply not justifiable).

Only 10% of Israelis did not support Cast Lead, in a poll by Haaretz (an Israeli newspaper). So, sadly, it appears the massacres have the support of the vast majority of the settler population in spite of general knowledge of civilian (including child) casualties before the poll. Some might consider this sadistic too.

https://imeu.org/article/operation-cast-lead

https://www.deviantart.com/restorative/art/Israeli-Fashion-1...

https://www.haaretz.com/2009-01-15/ty-article/poll-shows-mos...

Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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What form do you imagine that respectful co-existence would take, considering that the occupation has continued so long?

Maybe one of the billion peace deals Israel has offered and the Palestinians have rejected

Which one do you have in mind in particular?

As I understand it the peace proposal of 2000 gave the Palestinians only 66% of the West Bank, with those displaced previously thus being deprived of the property from which they had been displaced.

Other proposals have been of the same sort, and I do not see how the Palestinian Authority could accept such an agreement in a way that is in accordance with their duty to those displaced.

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> Drones + AI wins wars with minimal damage. Or in Israel's case, according to Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, maintain an apartheid system in a cost effective and efficient fashion. Kudos to them, they are pushing the state of the art here... https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/isra... https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apart...

Amnesty International lost its credibility after accusing Ukraine in war crimes while saying nothing on Russia. I group it with the BDS and other fake human rights movements.

All human rights group are fake after they criticize your side. It is the rule right???

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An anime called Psycho-Pass comments on this. A system existed to replace the remote view with a cartoonish environment with chicken characters so the operators would not receive psychological harm from operating a violet instrument.

There was a Black Mirror episode with a similar concept where footsoldiers were implanted with a chip that made them see enemies as literal monsters

Its also the plot of a 90s star trek tie in novel for children where they had kids play a censored video game but were really exterminating the native population https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Highest_Score

Anyways, its a reasonably common sci-fi plot.

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