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What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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I may be an idiot, but you seem confused: first you assume that I can not be this naïve, then you conclude that I am? Let me assure you, I'm not that naïve, but I don't presume to have the solution either. I agree that would have been better, but there you go. Maybe if we were more people than the vanishing few that I encounter, maybe then we would have something we could try. More weapons that are likely to start a…

I was expressing disbelief. As I suspected, you have no alternative.

The alternative to millions upon millions of intelligent people strapping their blinders on every day and refusing to see where we are heading is that a tiny fraction of these get together and start thinking out solutions.

Then maybe we'll get somewhere. That's all.

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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I was subject to discussions at school about the UK gov's ludicrous 'Protect and Survive' novelty booklet in the 70s. Some years later The Young Ones episode 'Bomb' seemed like the most appropriate response. Having grown up pretty much assuming I'd be incinerated by nukes at some point (I frequently dreamed of mushroom clouds on the horizon as a child), this is all nothing new to me. I've lived longer than I ever exp…

Yep, me too!

As an X-gen child of the 70s/80s I was at various points terrified of nuclear bombs!

Watching Threads when I was way to young didn't help...

There are times when I'd lay terrified in bed when I heard a jet engine over my house, and thought it might be a nuclear bomb!

An article I read a while back suggested that X-Gen kids have a form of PTSD from the Cold War!

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

#74
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Can't hear your negativity over the sound of my bathtub approaching 100% capacity.

lol to each their own. Hopefully you stashed away a couple years of food and lots of guns

Is there a plausible situation where you'd be unable to acquire food for a couple of years and then you'd start being able to acquire food?

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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It seems that most of you are ignoring that there are plenty of actors out there that actively seek destruction and ways to promote it. It's not that people are stupid. Many people of power are both intelligent and actively evil, as in-- working against your interests of survival--especially when their positions are threatened.

In fact, in some rare scenarios, nuclear destruction might even make logical sense to someone in power. One such scenario is evening out the playing field when you are way behind everyone else in the race. Do you recall how playing the "Armageddon" card in certain scenarios of Worms could actually help you win?

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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My dad said they would do air raid drills in elementary school (50's, 60's) due to the fear of a nuclear attack. They were taught to get under their desks.

Apparently getting under their desks was on the off-chance their school is far enough away to avoid being incinerated but still close enough for a pressure wave to blow out all the glass in the windows and turn it into projectiles.

Honestly, seems like a couldn't-hurt move.

Too close? Incinerated. Doesn't matter.

Goldilocks nearby enough for glass shrapnel? Dodged some glass by being under desk! Win!

Far away? Heard a distant boom while under desk.

Hard to fault really.

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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I was subject to discussions at school about the UK gov's ludicrous 'Protect and Survive' novelty booklet in the 70s. Some years later The Young Ones episode 'Bomb' seemed like the most appropriate response. Having grown up pretty much assuming I'd be incinerated by nukes at some point (I frequently dreamed of mushroom clouds on the horizon as a child), this is all nothing new to me. I've lived longer than I ever exp…

Yep, me too! As an X-gen child of the 70s/80s I was at various points terrified of nuclear bombs! Watching Threads when I was way to young didn't help... There are times when I'd lay terrified in bed when I heard a jet engine over my house, and thought it might be a nuclear bomb! An article I read a while back suggested that X-Gen kids have a form of PTSD from the Cold War!

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Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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The site is down so I can only speculate what it recommends. Whatever it is, I suspect it is not a list of suggestions for how to avoid nuclear disasters altogether. Because that is simply not in vogue. It seems we must all accept as something inevitable to have the specter of millions dead, if not billions, if not life as we know it, hanging over our heads for time eternal. Because we as humans are seemingly only en…

> Because that is simply not in vogue The hostile responses you've go this do rather demonstrate your point. Building peace in a world bristling with nukes held by independent sovereignties with limited information about each other and often incongruent self-defined 'interests', is indeed a hard problem. Hard problems require work and thought and research to try to solve. If conditions change to make the problem hard…

Thanks, good to hear some agreement, and I share your hope even if I'm growing more pessimistic by the day.

It always creates a stir to point out the absurdity of our current predicament. If I was a psychologist I might conclude that this is because many actually share my deep sense of despair, but can see no other solution that to trod on "in the machine" so to speak. I can sympathize, but we need to start doing something, to prod the diplomats in the right direction if nothing else.

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