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Let's make the web personal again

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Re: Let's make the web personal again

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Good to see this fixed quickly: https://github.com/Nym-HQ/nym/commit/a3530463ee323b8ba492960...

After being caught, they called erasing Brian Lovin’s credit from the LICENSE file as “A huge oversight on our part” https://twitter.com/nym_hq/status/1592176933445701633

Had this happen to one of my projects. Someone decided to remove my name from the LICENSE file on their fork. I called them out on it, and they put it back, saying it was a "mistake".

The only thing in the original commit was removing my name. Hard to believe that could occur accidentally.

Re: Let's make the web personal again

#72

Anyone know how a way to run a personal site for around $50 USD or under a year that can be pointed to a custom domain? My wife does some rug making and wants a portfolio available to show off her art, but we would prefer not to pay $10-20/month for such a site.

Check out fastmail.com ... Given an email account, hosting a new website is nearly as easy as uploading an entire directory (to file storage) in one operation, then assigning a url to it (under one of the 20-30 fastmail domains). I have not linked a custom domain to one of these, but they do IIRC support it.

Estimate $3/month w/o the custom domain.

Re: Let's make the web personal again

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>browsers can still talk HTTP/0.9 and HTTP/1.0 For now. It won't be too many years before the mega-corp browsers not only drop early HTTP support but they drop HTTP/1.1 too. They'll do this in the name of "security". And then all that Chrome based browsers will support will be their very own invented and open-washed QUIC in the form of HTTP/3 and hosting a personal website visitable by a random person will not be pos…

Why is this getting downvoted? Can someone who is downvoting, or anyone, provide a reason? Is the comment patently incorrect?

Welcome to hn in recent years.

The site desperately needs some form of meta moderation.. I've barely scrolled this thread and seen multiple examples already.

Re: Let's make the web personal again

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IMO making "a new Wordpress" doesn't feel like a great alternative -- Wordpress is pretty good as it is, and you have the option of self-hosting fairly painlessly if you want to.

The fun of late-90s website-making is real though, but I don't see a turn towards that for the vast majority of people.

One nice corner of optimism is projects like Glitch [1], which give just enough space to explore, go wild, and quickly host what you make.

[1]: https://glitch.com

Re: Let's make the web personal again

#75
The law matters. Section 230 of the Telecommunications Act matters. And in the old days, for several centuries, the laws regarding libel and slander mattered, but of course at the moment they are not being aggressively pursued. Nowadays you can go on Twitter and say that Hillary Clinton runs a child sex ring out of a pizza restaurant in Washington DC, and Clinton is not allowed to bring a libel suit against Twitter because of Section 230, nor would it be fruitful for her to file thousands (or even millions) of suits against the anonymous people who post that particular rumor. And so, for all practical purposes, the normal laws regarding libel have been suspended. And yet people still need some way to defend their reputations against lies.

Do you want people to set up personal websites?

The answer is obvious: repeal Section 230.

Once Section 230 is gone, sites such as Twitter and Facebook will simply cease to exist. They will either shut down on their own, or they will be sued into oblivion.

Everyone would be forced to set up their own website, and then take full legal responsibility for what is posted to that website.

Once Section 230 is gone, then the normal rules of libel come back into force, as they existed for several centuries. Some extremists might regard this as censorship, but for several centuries the normal laws of libel were not regarded as censorship.

A civil society can only prevail where people are required to take full legal responsibility for the things they say in public spaces.

At the current moment, our laws regarding libel are made almost useless because the publisher of the lies are protected by Section 230, and going after each anonymous individual, when thousands or even millions of people are repeating the lie, is too burdensome for even wealthy individuals to pursue the cases. When wealthy people ask their lawyers "Can I sue?" the lawyers remind them of the Streisand effect:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

I do not know what will happen in the future, but I am certain the current set of arrangements cannot survive. People must have some way of defending their reputations, and the traditional way of doing so has been through our laws regarding libel and slander.

To my mind, the most obvious way forward is to repeal Section 230. Large sites such as Twitter and Facebook would likely vanish, and people would then be forced to set up personal websites, and they would be responsible for everything said on those websites. Like newspaper publishers, they could publish many writers, if they wanted to, but they would face the normal legal burdens of libel law, just like every newspaper.

Re: Let's make the web personal again

#76

The law matters. Section 230 of the Telecommunications Act matters. And in the old days, for several centuries, the laws regarding libel and slander mattered, but of course at the moment they are not being aggressively pursued. Nowadays you can go on Twitter and say that Hillary Clinton runs a child sex ring out of a pizza restaurant in Washington DC, and Clinton is not allowed to bring a libel suit against Twitter b…

You can encourage personal websites without discouraging communal platforms, though.

Re: Let's make the web personal again

#77

The law matters. Section 230 of the Telecommunications Act matters. And in the old days, for several centuries, the laws regarding libel and slander mattered, but of course at the moment they are not being aggressively pursued. Nowadays you can go on Twitter and say that Hillary Clinton runs a child sex ring out of a pizza restaurant in Washington DC, and Clinton is not allowed to bring a libel suit against Twitter b…

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Re: Let's make the web personal again

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post #43

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> People want to participate, they want to be part of a conversation. Are you potentially speaking for a vocal minority here that wants to be part of a conversation while ignoring the many than simply read (consume)?

Well, there is a reason most sites nowadays have comment section. The readers also read comments, even if they might only add to them rarely

Leaving comments is a different kind of participation than curating a personal website. The assertion originally under discussion here (a few posts back) is that most people don't care to curate their own personal website, or, really, any sort of distinguished online identity. I think that is true. Most people are on Facebook/Instagram/Nextdoor/whatever are doom scrolling it, not trying to become an influencer. The assortment of people leaving comments on NYT, Amazon reviews, or chattering on a forum somewhere, or whatever else, are doing just that, but not trying to drive traffic to their personal home page.

Re: Let's make the web personal again

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If this were true, SquareSpace would be trading way higher than they are now, Twitter wouldn't exist, and Facebook would look a lot like MySpace. My take: people created websites back then because there was no other choice. People RUSHED into MySpace when it got hot partly because of this. Many people don't care about web culture; they only care about consuming. Just like many people don't become screenwriters or dir…

If what were true? I'm not seeing an empirical claim to evaluate here.
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