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Why is every layoff 10-15%?

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Re: Why is every layoff 10-15%?

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Post by lostcolony »

throwaway0x7E6 wrote: post #65
lostcolony wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> nobody's firing productive workers. Remind me why Twitter is trying to rehire workers they let go, within a week?

because twitter's own execs and HR had their say https://mobile.twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/15911538663...

That has no bearing whatsoever? That link itself says "Mr. Musk's team brushed aside the suggestion", meaning that didn't effect who was let go, but -even if it did-, it still would have no bearing, since regardless of who made the decision, or for why, the fact they're being sought after to be rehired so soon means your initial statement "nobody is firing productive workers" is false. Someone fired workers who were sufficiently necessary as to realize they -need them back- within a week.

Re: Why is every layoff 10-15%?

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Post by deltree7 »

lostcolony wrote: post #51
throwaway0x7E6 wrote: post #22

because that's roughly the amount of ESG dead weight. nobody's firing productive workers.

>> nobody's firing productive workers. Remind me why Twitter is trying to rehire workers they let go, within a week?

They are only rehiring a handful. Stop spreading propoganda

Re: Why is every layoff 10-15%?

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Post by lostcolony »

grog454 wrote: post #60
lostcolony wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, Twitter is basically a running case study in what not to do when it comes to acquiring a company successfully, and can't be held up as anything other than "what happens when you do everything wrong". Certainly, it's not a useful example for others, even as a warning, because you can't easily tell what bad actions led to what bad consequences; there are so many of both.

While I suspect you're right, isn't it a little early to conclude the acquisition wasn't successful? Who even knows what successful means in this case?

I didn't conclude it wasn't a 'successful' acquisition. Just a case study of what not to do. Even if it somehow ends up in a place it gets spun as being a success, only Elon fanboys are saying "4d chess! Brilliant!"; anyone with an ounce of sense recognizes how dumb everything about this has been.

Re: Why is every layoff 10-15%?

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Post by Skunkleton »

Clent wrote: post #62
TexanFeller wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but many CEOs will tend to believe that things will go better with everyone back in the office Many of us SWEs believe the same!

Many or a few? Most software engineers find themselves most effective in work from home. This breaks in favor at 3:4 or higher. The software engineers that want to work in office are the odd-balls. I am interested in the break down when one factors in whatever concept of '10x developers' -- which do the most productive of us prefer?

Nit: Many can still be a minority.

Re: Why is every layoff 10-15%?

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Post by lostcolony »

deltree7 wrote: post #72
lostcolony wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> nobody's firing productive workers. Remind me why Twitter is trying to rehire workers they let go, within a week?

They are only rehiring a handful. Stop spreading propoganda

...I'm not? "trying to rehire workers they let go" is missing the word "all". Perhaps -you- read that particular qualifier into it, but it's just as valid to understand it, as it was intended, to imply "some", especially since the existence of -any- rehired employee refutes the statement it was in response to.

I assume you got terrified when you heard, say, "Jeffrey Dahmer ate people", and started to question your own existence since obviously if he ate ALL the people you couldn't be here?

Re: Why is every layoff 10-15%?

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Post by anothernewdude »

bbreier wrote: post #13

> Remote work > Anticipate more mid-size and smaller companies will go back more fully into the office as times get tougher. This will not be one size fits all, but will be an increasing trend. Up to this point in the article, whether you agree or disagree with the points, the author offers some arguments and reasoning supporting each. Here, they simply assert that small and mid-size companies will go into the office…

It's ridiculous because getting rid of the office entirely is the biggest cost savings going.

Re: Why is every layoff 10-15%?

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Post by phkx »

> One venture firm I know is encouraging companies to assume they should cut 50% and then use financial modeling to prove otherwise.

Is there any common tooling to do that kind of financial modeling other than spreadsheets?

Re: Why is every layoff 10-15%?

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Post by jmt_ »

Clent wrote: post #62
TexanFeller wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but many CEOs will tend to believe that things will go better with everyone back in the office Many of us SWEs believe the same!

Many or a few? Most software engineers find themselves most effective in work from home. This breaks in favor at 3:4 or higher. The software engineers that want to work in office are the odd-balls. I am interested in the break down when one factors in whatever concept of '10x developers' -- which do the most productive of us prefer?

I just want to be able to choose which I want on a day-by-day basis. Some days I am much more productive in the office because I need to, say, communicate with a bunch of people or there's some sort of back and forth that needs to occur. Or I just need to get out of the house for a bit. Other days, I just want to stay home and spend the time focusing on something in particular without being bothered. But I need both to have both to do my job effectively. However, I work at a small company and am the primary software engineer which changes the dynamic a bit.
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