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TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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TikTok Android data collected: https://play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.zhiliao... - Location - Personal info: Name, Email, User IDs, Address, Phone Number - Financial info: User payment info, purchase history, other financial info - Messages: Other in-app messages - Photos & Videos - Audio voice & sound recordings - Contacts - App activity: App interactions, in-app search history, other user generated co…

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Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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What purchases, from what source? Same with financial information. Contact info and contacts, only if you allow it? User content, what does that even mean? Search and browsing history is likely just from within the app, I don't see how they would get it from elsewhere.

Updated with more context and source links. The real question is, why does it need all this data to show you videos?

I'm not an Android dev but I wonder if its ALL PURCHASE history or just access to purchase history and info in regards to the app like if you buy stuff in-app. Likely the latter if I had to guess.

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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After realizing that HN can be a rather challenging place (highlighted in the shocking moderation of the Queen E death announcement thread), I actually took a substantial break from HN. And it made me quite a bit happier. I recommend you make your own HN with RSS. It is substantially better that way. You won't be at the mercy of one moderators personal belief system and your 'main page' will hopefully better reflect…

Dang’s explanation of the moderation of that thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32773299

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Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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Heavy taxes, plain packaging and other measures helped halve tobacco consumption over some 16 years in Australia. I have no issue with poor people having better mental and lung health.

Win? https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/15/regul... > Regular cannabis use has become more accepted than smoking tobacco, the latest National Drug Strategy Household Survey (NDSHS) has found.

I'd take that with a grain of salt. If cannabis was allowed to be smoked in the open, subjecting others to the smoke, I can imagine people would be not as accepting.

Prevalence of for monthly or more often weed consumption is still lower than prevalence of daily tobacco smoking, so yes I'd still call it a win.

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

#75

TikTok Android data collected: https://play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.zhiliao... - Location - Personal info: Name, Email, User IDs, Address, Phone Number - Financial info: User payment info, purchase history, other financial info - Messages: Other in-app messages - Photos & Videos - Audio voice & sound recordings - Contacts - App activity: App interactions, in-app search history, other user generated co…

search and browsing history, like from Safari and not from whatever dodgy embedded browser tt has?

Of course its from their in-app browser and the stuff you type while inside it.

They cannot obtain all your history from Safari/Chrome/FF on your phone.

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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I'm finally in a place where the only website I religiously check is HN. Because of it's nature, for me, it never takes up more than a few minutes every couple of hours. It took hard work to get there. I use Nextdns to block domains of websites and apps when I realize I spend too much time on them. Could I just allowlist domains, sure, and sometimes I do that when I need to look at something on Reddit for instance. B…

After realizing that HN can be a rather challenging place (highlighted in the shocking moderation of the Queen E death announcement thread), I actually took a substantial break from HN. And it made me quite a bit happier. I recommend you make your own HN with RSS. It is substantially better that way. You won't be at the mercy of one moderators personal belief system and your 'main page' will hopefully better reflect…

> recommend you make your own HN with RSS

How? Please…

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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> Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged. Can you elaborate? Are they downvoted, or just not presented in the first place?

He's full of beans, man. This site loves contrarian views, so long as they're even slightly supported by facts or anecdata. The main thing that gets downvoted is angry tirades without evidence, and it happens to most political views/religious views no matter what side they're on.

You’re assuming everyone in HN downvotes just like you. How do you know that?

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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What purchases, from what source? Same with financial information. Contact info and contacts, only if you allow it? User content, what does that even mean? Search and browsing history is likely just from within the app, I don't see how they would get it from elsewhere.

Updated with more context and source links. The real question is, why does it need all this data to show you videos?

We all know the answer to that. It’s a free product, so you are the product.

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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After realizing that HN can be a rather challenging place (highlighted in the shocking moderation of the Queen E death announcement thread), I actually took a substantial break from HN. And it made me quite a bit happier. I recommend you make your own HN with RSS. It is substantially better that way. You won't be at the mercy of one moderators personal belief system and your 'main page' will hopefully better reflect…

Dang’s explanation of the moderation of that thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32773299

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Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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TikTok Android data collected: https://play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.zhiliao... - Location - Personal info: Name, Email, User IDs, Address, Phone Number - Financial info: User payment info, purchase history, other financial info - Messages: Other in-app messages - Photos & Videos - Audio voice & sound recordings - Contacts - App activity: App interactions, in-app search history, other user generated co…

A lot of the Android ones are marked as Optional.
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