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Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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They have less content, but Netflix is seriously full of so much trash content. I've rarely enjoyed a Netflix original movie.

They’re original stuff is often so incredibly generic and uninspiring. They might have changed how they display shows recently, but I swear there was a period of time not long ago when the main image for a show would only have a single person with a nondescript background. It felt like the whole thing was algorithmically generated.

> It felt like the whole thing was algorithmically generated.

It is: https://www.looper.com/274997/the-secret-behind-netflixs-per...

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have less content, but Netflix is seriously full of so much trash content. I've rarely enjoyed a Netflix original movie.

They’re original stuff is often so incredibly generic and uninspiring. They might have changed how they display shows recently, but I swear there was a period of time not long ago when the main image for a show would only have a single person with a nondescript background. It felt like the whole thing was algorithmically generated.

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Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Disney has so much less content, and I really don't mind it. There's nothing I hate more than logging into Netflix after a month and everything I was vaguely interested in has now completely disappeared and been replaced by even more half-assed looking projects. Also, shout out to Disney for actually making it easy to restart a show from the beginning. I don't understand how Netflix has dropped so much money into chi…

They have less content, but Netflix is seriously full of so much trash content. I've rarely enjoyed a Netflix original movie.

I mean that is the whole idea: make content that (the majority) of people watch to chill and relax. After a bad day etc.

And there are a lot of gems in there too.

It is just simple and we have to acknowledge it: people like watching trash shows.

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I know it's not Disney / Netflix, but am I the only one surprised by how good and unappreciated Prime Video is? I find there's some good stuff on there and it's all bundled in with my Prime subscription so as a long-term Prime subscriber I feel like I basically get it for free. The Boys is amazing for example, probably the best superhero show I've ever watched. Amazon Music got a nice upgrade recently as well with more albums included with the standard Prime subscription.

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Here's a question I've had and maybe someone from HN can answer it. The (movie) streaming wars have content as a differentiator in the market, but it doesn't seem like Spotify/Apple music is effected. Assuming both the RIAA and MPAA members both don't care about consumer complaints that much, why do record companies not start their own streaming services? I assume it's easier than making a movie streaming service, an…

They tried. They failed so horribly that the RIAA basically granted Apple a monopoly on digital music for the next half a decade. Steve Jobs had to basically slap the labels around a lot just so that they wouldn't limit how many iPods you could sync your music to or make you buy a subscription. Music streaming was tried by basically every other player in the business and failed until Spotify pushed for ad-supported free streams.

Interestingly enough, the record labels - or at least Sony and Universal - actually do have minority ownership in Spotify. I would not be surprised if that was specifically pushed to get those labels on-board with Spotify's really low royalty rates.

As for why they don't do it today... my guess is that the exclusive content model just isn't as much of a draw for music as it is for movies and TV shows. Or, more specifically, we don't listen to music like we watch TV shows. Imagine if someone just made a list of episodes of Netflix shows they liked and watched them in a random order - that'd be insane. But that's how we handle music all the time. Pulling your music off Spotify means you lose out on radio and playlist royalties, because nobody can make playlists across streaming apps. You'd have to switch into the one streaming service that has the latest Taylor Swift album, then switch back to the one that has the Sony BMG catalog, and so on. Nobody would do this.

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Disney has decades of experience with content that the whole family can enjoy. Netflix has a decade of experience with...AWS With Netflix you get a mixed bag of Stranger Things + stuff that most folks expect to be dropped after 2 seasons. When Netflix pivoted into content, they needed to get creatives and passionate people in charge rather than the tech-world PMs they ended up putting in charge. Disney might not be p…

The problem with Disney is that if you are not into… well Disney stuff then there is nothing to watch. On HBO you just get quality, in many different genres and formats.

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Here's a question I've had and maybe someone from HN can answer it. The (movie) streaming wars have content as a differentiator in the market, but it doesn't seem like Spotify/Apple music is effected. Assuming both the RIAA and MPAA members both don't care about consumer complaints that much, why do record companies not start their own streaming services? I assume it's easier than making a movie streaming service, an…

I don't think people would use a music streaming service that doesn't have all the content they want. I think the record companies agreed to the streaming deal because they saw that piracy was a legitimate issue, and the business strategy probably just worked better than for film. $5 or $10 a month per user adds up to an acceptable amount of revenue for music labels + streaming services to split, but there's just mor…

I think this the main reason -- it really just comes down to the number of unique pieces of content a user will stream in a session.

For video a session is generally one movie or a bunch of episodes of the same TV show, so you can sit in one service for a long time.

But for music, you'd either spend lot of time hopping between services OR you are forced into making compromises (e.g., do you listen to the classic rock radio station on the service that has rights to rolling stones, or the app that has rights to led zeppelin)?

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Here's a question I've had and maybe someone from HN can answer it. The (movie) streaming wars have content as a differentiator in the market, but it doesn't seem like Spotify/Apple music is effected. Assuming both the RIAA and MPAA members both don't care about consumer complaints that much, why do record companies not start their own streaming services? I assume it's easier than making a movie streaming service, an…

Most people can’t name a single label/recording company. Or if they can they don’t care about its music catalog enough to pay a monthly fee.
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