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India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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paxys wrote: post #42
m4jor wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because China is the number one threat to democracy and the US. They also are responsible for stealing hundreds of billions of dollars of IP from the US every single year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_intellectual_pr... And masters at stealing R&D and tech from US companies for their own use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_spy_cases_in_t... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinese-hackers-to…

USA is the number one threat to democracy in the USA. There's no point continuing to blame China, Russia or whoever else for domestic problems.

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Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Post by InTheArena »

factsarelolz wrote: post #21

Thanks to the United States of America wether it be through legal or illegal means.

Globalization certainly, to the degree that the United States has pushed and opened borders, absolutely. To the degree that pseudo-communistic countries have reformed their legal systems to respect the rule of law and property, that has little to do with the United States.

The guy who can't get a lifetime job at a shirt factory, steelworks, or software job in the USA also "paid" for this.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Post by coding123 »

m4jor wrote: post #46
paxys wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USA is the number one threat to democracy in the USA. There's no point continuing to blame China, Russia or whoever else for domestic problems.

Nation-state hackers from Russia and China are certainly running active campaigns in US elections to disrupt or manipulate them. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/17/chinese-h... Best evidence of this is the previous 2020 elections.

Maybe your solution is to set up a firewall and block any articles written out there that gets the wrong people elected.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Post by largepeepee »

m4jor wrote: post #46
paxys wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USA is the number one threat to democracy in the USA. There's no point continuing to blame China, Russia or whoever else for domestic problems.

Nation-state hackers from Russia and China are certainly running active campaigns in US elections to disrupt or manipulate them. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/17/chinese-h... Best evidence of this is the previous 2020 elections.

Sure they are, which countries aren't interested in the most powerful country that constantly exports their problems.(our debt is YOUR problem)

But the coverage is probably outsized to their actual impact compared to the hundreds of billions spent by the local monopolies trying to influence the elections themselves.

Trump ignoring his personal issues for a moment, has shown with his rise and fall, just how much of the media are just working together - I have never seen all of them including interestingly enough CNBC and Fox constantly dismissing the same candidate in unison for months towards to 2016 election.

Add the tech monopolies into the mix for 2020 and it was another eye opener.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Post by keepquestioning »

dirtyid wrote: post #63
mensetmanusman wrote: post #15

Such an awesome accomplishment. Also, it’s interestingly a huge black eye to the CCP: news of this Indian accomplishment will be censored in China, because it proves that nations can progress without forced-sterilization/-abortion/-1-child-policy/authoritarianism/ etc.

Wut, India started from a better state, took same amount of time, to progress 1/5th as much, while still having north korean tier food insecurity. Dooming generations and hundreds of millions of avoidable deaths due to being stuck in poverty for longer than need be. There's nothing to be envious about. Also eliminating rural poverty + building rural infra is the actual hard part that takes time and resources. We'll h…

The truth hurts...

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Post by scarmig »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #15

Such an awesome accomplishment. Also, it’s interestingly a huge black eye to the CCP: news of this Indian accomplishment will be censored in China, because it proves that nations can progress without forced-sterilization/-abortion/-1-child-policy/authoritarianism/ etc.

1) At this point, the CCP internally considers the 1 child policy a mistake. I'm sure this news won't be widely published within China, but mentioning it is not going to get anyone into trouble. Plenty of people complain about the one child policy, and so long as you don't call for the downfall of the CCP because of it, you're fine.

2) India has its own sordid history with coercive sterilization. During the Emergency, millions of people were sterilized, under varying levels of compulsion.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Post by e-clinton »

paxys wrote: post #50
m4jor wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nation-state hackers from Russia and China are certainly running active campaigns in US elections to disrupt or manipulate them. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/17/chinese-h... Best evidence of this is the previous 2020 elections.

And the USA is doing the same to other countries. It is a given that this happens, and will continue to happen. You measure how strong a democracy is by how well they can resist such campaigns. If some random Russian bots can trigger a coup in the strongest and richest country in the world then, well, that's on us.

“the US is doing the same to other countries”

Source?

“If some random Russian not can trigger a coup”

It’s still an act of aggression regardless of whether the US is equipped to deal with it. While I agree that the US does lots of shitty things, we have way more checks and balances than our key enemies. For one, it is the people who elect those who represent us.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Post by [deleted] »

InTheArena wrote: post #65

This is one of the messages that need to be pushed hard - globalization - with it's implications on the "first world" global middle class - has helped make this possible. It's like talking to people opposed to GMO rice. They are fine with an ideological position that GMO foods should be eliminated until you point out the alternative is hundreds of millions dead of starvation.

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Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Post by anthropodie »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #3

One of the best things about living in India is watching families move from lower or lower-middle class to middle-class status. Usually, all it takes is someone from the family landing a white-collar job. While the tech bodyshops (TCS, Infosys, etc.) might have a poor reputation in the US, these companies have been absolutely critical in helping move tens of millions into middle-class respectability.

Those millions who moved to middle class are also helping the layer below them. These lifted households are spending their wealth on house helps, local grocery stores, taxis/autos and a whole lot of other local businesses. This trickle down effect then boosts development in cities where these IT hubs are located. Even more students then want to join these IT companies and enjoy the lifestyle of their seniors thus continuing the cycle.

P.s. We spend money in local shops because the stores like Walmart have still not penetrated the Indian market as they have outside India.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Post by helij »

m4jor wrote: post #40
richard___ wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do so many people on HN hate on China? What's your relationship with Chinese people in your personal life?

Because China is the number one threat to democracy and the US. They also are responsible for stealing hundreds of billions of dollars of IP from the US every single year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_intellectual_pr... And masters at stealing R&D and tech from US companies for their own use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_spy_cases_in_t... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinese-hackers-to…

Please, please know your history[0] before speaking.

[0]https://www.history.com/news/industrial-revolution-spies-eur...

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