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Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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Re: Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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I know this is a joke, but this is really what it was like hearing RATM for the first time: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TTXPvD5iYxs

For anyone that can't stand not being able to scan, replace "shorts" with "v" to get a regular video: https://www.youtube.com/v/TTXPvD5iYxs

Re: Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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I've been a huge fan of RATM since the early 90s, but I don't think that "A brand new band mixing metal and hip hop like no one had done before" is quite true. My understanding is that the music scene in LA had a lot of bands like this. I believe the band Downset pre-dates them, and they had a big hit called "Anger". I only wish they had a bigger impact in politics. For all of their incredible songs, almost nothing c…

Body Count was ahead of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_Count_(band)

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Never understand how the Beastie Boys don't get more acknowledgement for contributing to the sound that RATM used.

Or Run DMC and Aerosmith with "Walk this way" produced by none other than Rick Rubin which role in the emergence of hip hop is extremely underated, as he one of the founder of most famous hip hop label, Def Jam.

Rick Rubin is pretty well known to anyone with even a basic history of hip hop I think? Like dude is referenced in 99 problems, one of the most popular hip hop songs of all time. I only sort of follow hip hop and I immediately knew who you were talking about, I have to hope people that care deeply about the topic know dude matters?

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So, I’m sitting here in a small town in Uruguay on the coast. I’m American and I’m thinking about this third world country (please, this is how they refer to themselves - not as a developing nation, so just hard stop right there) and I’m thinking about where we are as humans, are heading. Well, as my father said tonight, history doesn’t repeat, it rhymes…here we are. What is going on??? I try and try as someone who g…

Are you saying that it's coming back around again?

Re: Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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post #11

I've been a huge fan of RATM since the early 90s, but I don't think that "A brand new band mixing metal and hip hop like no one had done before" is quite true. My understanding is that the music scene in LA had a lot of bands like this. I believe the band Downset pre-dates them, and they had a big hit called "Anger". I only wish they had a bigger impact in politics. For all of their incredible songs, almost nothing c…

Downset was heavily influenced by Zach’s old band Inside Out. I was in an old hardcore band from that era and know Ray and played with shows with Inside Out. Updated for autocorrected error.

I'm getting old but I am still straight-edge right now because of bands like Inside Out and Minor Threat.

Also I wish Tom would still write his op-ed on NYTimes, I really enjoyed his history and writing.

Re: Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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post #49

I've been a huge fan of RATM since the early 90s, but I don't think that "A brand new band mixing metal and hip hop like no one had done before" is quite true. My understanding is that the music scene in LA had a lot of bands like this. I believe the band Downset pre-dates them, and they had a big hit called "Anger". I only wish they had a bigger impact in politics. For all of their incredible songs, almost nothing c…

NOFX had their politically awakening during the Bush years and produced their best work with War on Errrorism during this time.

I still know the lyrics to Franco-Unamerican song. There was a huge Rock against Bush movement back then from concerts to album compilations.

Re: Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This cover by Denzel Curry is also worth checking out. https://yewtu.be/ZY4ywyFXdik

That was incredible, thanks for sharing

There’s more than a few gems in the Triple J Like A Version catalogue. Check out the cover of “Blood” by Gang of Youths. Stunning cover.

Re: Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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post #29

Never understand how the Beastie Boys don't get more acknowledgement for contributing to the sound that RATM used.

What do you see as the main similarities? I don't really feel like the Beasties' early rock sounds were that much closer to RATM than, say, Run-DMC or even Schoolly D's "Signifying Rapper". The Anthrax collaboration version of "Bring The Noise" might be even closer, but it was released after RATM's debut was recorded.

Beastie Boys was a hardcore band before all the songs you mentioned, the fourth member is the drummer of Luscious Jackson. Or before they became a rap group.

Edit: Beastie Boys as a hardcore band pre-dates RATM's or Zach's Inside Out. I think the GP is correct.

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