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Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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While this incident isn't good, I still think the setup is a ton better than Flathub, where you have flatpaks being maintained by third parties with no relationship to the software vendors. For example, all of the Jetbrains snaps are managed by a volunteer, as is Zoom (!) Compromise one of those devs' personal computers, and you've now got a path to getting a backdoor out to everybody using those. I trust Canonical's…

Is the third party maintainer relationship a policy choice by flatpak? or is that just the case because the maintainer built the flatpak first?

It's because Zoom / Jetbrains haven't stepped up to package their software as flatpak, so volunteers got in there. There's a flathub policy that a flatpak project will be handed over to the vendor to maintain if they make that request - which is definitely good, but the fact of those volunteers being able to do this (however well intentioned) is not.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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And if you wanted to install 10 apps, then you'd have to visit 10 web pages, search for the file and then install? No, leave this for Windows.

You don't already do this for Linux? :( A new Linux setup already requires me to visit a bunch of sites and find .debs. Chrome, Signal, Edge, Visual Studio Code, Slack, etc. I don't really trust random unofficial maintainers in snap store and all of the above is required for my work.

Don't most distribution repos already have all those already included with the "main" package management system?

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Discussed recently in another story, but many including me like Pop!_OS as a better version of Ubuntu.

I tried Pop before, eventually ran into a compatibility issue. Also it's based on Ubuntu.

I can't speak to the compatibility issues you hit, since that's obviously hardware specific.

Sorry I wasn't clear enough about the Ubuntu connection. Pop!_OS is based on Ubuntu, but Pop!_OS provides non-snap packages for (AFAIK) everything. So for me, Pop!_OS is like Ubuntu, minus the user-hostility.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

#74

Signal Snap Maintainer here, this is because of a DMCA takedown request from lawyers representing Signal. Canonical is currently working with them to clear things up. Canonical's communication to me was initially lacking due to issues in their process, the process has been amended and I'm back in the loop again.

Yet another reason not to use Signal. The correct behavior would have been for signal to offer an official snap or to contact the maintainer. Instead they send their legal team...

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

#75

Signal Snap Maintainer here, this is because of a DMCA takedown request from lawyers representing Signal. Canonical is currently working with them to clear things up. Canonical's communication to me was initially lacking due to issues in their process, the process has been amended and I'm back in the loop again.

So you're saying signal requested their own program be removed from the snap store? Sorry, I'm a little confused on terms. When you say snap maintainer, are you saying you are the maintainer of the signal snap package, or that you're a maintainer of snap itself?

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

#76

Signal Snap Maintainer here, this is because of a DMCA takedown request from lawyers representing Signal. Canonical is currently working with them to clear things up. Canonical's communication to me was initially lacking due to issues in their process, the process has been amended and I'm back in the loop again.

So you're saying signal requested their own program be removed from the snap store? Sorry, I'm a little confused on terms. When you say snap maintainer, are you saying you are the maintainer of the signal snap package, or that you're a maintainer of snap itself?

This snap is unofficial.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

#77

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And if you wanted to install 10 apps, then you'd have to visit 10 web pages, search for the file and then install? No, leave this for Windows.

You don't already do this for Linux? :( A new Linux setup already requires me to visit a bunch of sites and find .debs. Chrome, Signal, Edge, Visual Studio Code, Slack, etc. I don't really trust random unofficial maintainers in snap store and all of the above is required for my work.

I just write flatpak install chrome and the machine is like OK /s

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

#78

To any app dev. If your app is only available via snap I will not be using it. Also certbot, shame on you for removing the Debian repository in favor of snap.

On the bright side, their move to snap finally provided me with the impetus to switch to acme.sh (https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh) and it's been a much nicer experience.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

#79

Signal Snap Maintainer here, this is because of a DMCA takedown request from lawyers representing Signal. Canonical is currently working with them to clear things up. Canonical's communication to me was initially lacking due to issues in their process, the process has been amended and I'm back in the loop again.

Thanks for the explanation Galgalesh!

Can you post this update on the Snapcraft (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/what-happened-to-signal-desktop...) and GitHub threads (https://github.com/snapcrafters/signal-desktop/issues/70) too?

I was going to just now and cross link back here to your comment and figured it would be better coming from you directly!

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