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Re: Create - A new kind of web editing interface

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Post by franzmaruna » Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 6:14 PM UTC

bobfunk wrote: post #54

andyking wrote: post #19

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I have similar issues - our website is in WordPress and despite the ease-of-use of this particular package, a lot of people just don't seem to get it. Some staff and volunteers pick it up quite easily, if they haven't already seen or used it before, but several people just don't do it, and instead I get a phone call or email saying "can you put this on the website?". Incidentally, do you find a lot of people simply c…

We're also aiming to solve this with Webpop ( http://www.webpop.com ). we dont do inline editing, but on-site editing where you navigate to the page you want to update and click edit, we then highlight all dynamic content on the page and bring up the relevant form when clicked. In our first prototypes we were playing around with inline editing, but ended up concluding that it causes more problems than it solves when…

we actually had the same experience with early versions of concrete cms. Everything was on the page and it was a hard experience. We then pulled things more into overlays and it made a lot more sense for people, and was easier/more consistent to develop with.

Generally the promise of in-context editing is you can fix a typo from the same place you see it. I think trying to make it a pixel perfect "edit looks EXACTLY the same as view" deal is too literal.

http://concrete5.org is doing quite well with the overlay approach, and no one says our software isn't intuitive enough because the editor is in a window.

Re: Create - A new kind of web editing interface

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Post by jsilence » Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 11:22 AM UTC

bergie wrote: post #66

jsilence wrote: post #61

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Would be nice to have a list of RDFa compatible backends.

Backends don't need to be RDFa-compatible in any other sense than being able to contain the RDFa attributes in their HTML templates.

Rewording: Would be nice to have a list of CMSes or content stores which already provide plugins, themes, gizmos to insert RDFa attributes into the content.

Re: Create - A new kind of web editing interface

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Post by lsmith77 » Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 1:32 PM UTC

Scenario: A single backend, providing content for an ever growing set of front ends (desktop, tablet, mobile in various permutations). Content editors need to ensure things look good in all output formats.

Solution: Content editors get a button to preview draft content in all front ends. This opens up a tab for each front end. Front end uses the backend session to get permission to retrieve the draft content and loads up create.js during the rendering.

Using CORS the frontend is configured to send back any changes to the backend directly. Title width optimization can be done inline, all related pages can be updated right away.

All the front ends need to be able to do is identify an admin and to be able to pull the draft content and then include create.js. That is it. Booom, the front end supports inline editing. All your front ends support inline editing this way!