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Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Lots of people are going to respond to this with comments about how most olive oil in the US is fake.

This is based on an old study [1] and is no longer the case.

It's now FUD perpetuated by DTC brands as part of their marketing. [2]

[1] https://www.aboutoliveoil.org/uc-davis-olive-center-olive-oi...

[2] https://www.oliveoiltimes.com/briefs/brightland-drops-claims...

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

#72

On urban US supermarket shelves virtually every bottle of olive oil advertises itself as "virgin" or the "even better" varieties ("extra virgin", "first cold pressed" etc). I have read that many of these labels are hogwash, and that the contents of your typical supermarket "extra virgin olive oil" bottle pretty often include adulterants like palm, canola, or sunflower oil. I can definitely taste the diff between supe…

The North American Olive Oil Association maintains a list of genuine olive oils. They send people into grocery stores to randomly buy a bottle of one of the listed brands/varieties and test it in their lab.

https://www.aboutoliveoil.org/64-certified-pure-and-authenti...

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

#73
Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3].

Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness:

https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi...

https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0...

The Greek extra virgin olive oil sold at Trader Joe's is also very good.

Avoid the - Whole Foods & 365 branded - Greek EVOO at Whole Foods: it was rancid every single time I've tried it.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-crime-food/italian-...

[2] https://www.oliveoiltimes.com/olive-oil-basics/mafia-olive-o...

[3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/ceciliarodriguez/2016/02/10/the...

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

#74

Edit: reading this back, it sounds somewhat like an attempt to shill a product. So, disclaimer: I have absolutely no affiliation with Jeff or the Cultured Oils, I’m just fascinated by it. Serial entrepreneur Jeff Nobbs recently launched a new product in the food oil space: Cultured Oil* I came across his writings* on the perils of seed oils earlier this year and it radically changed the way I eat. After becoming awar…

Thanks for posting about this. I bought two bottles of the cultured oil gonna see how it works out. I wouldn't have learned about this without your post.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

#75

Edit: reading this back, it sounds somewhat like an attempt to shill a product. So, disclaimer: I have absolutely no affiliation with Jeff or the Cultured Oils, I’m just fascinated by it. Serial entrepreneur Jeff Nobbs recently launched a new product in the food oil space: Cultured Oil* I came across his writings* on the perils of seed oils earlier this year and it radically changed the way I eat. After becoming awar…

there're plenty of nz olive oil growers pay them a visit and buy during pressing season (May-June)

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

#76

Good thing I put that in practically all my food anyway. I always thought extra virgin olive oil tastes better than vegetable oil

Virgin olive oil has a strong flavor and very low smoke point, which makes it unsuitable for most types of food. You may like the taste of olive oil better than vegetable oil, but it’s kind of weird to taste olive oil in most foods. Kind of like how you wouldn’t but blue cheese on everything, or truffles on everything, or bacon on everything, even if you like the taste of those things—they taste a bit weird when comb…

Vegetable oil smokes at a very similar point than olive oil [1]. The only reason people uses vegetable oils is 1. it's cheap. 2. does not add extra flavors.

[1] https://blog.mountainroseherbs.com/hs-fs/hubfs/CulinaryOil_S...

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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I lived with a Greek flatmate for a while. By far the best olive oil I've had was from their family owned olive grove. Usually brought back from his trips home in reused milk jugs.

There used to be a vineyard in Lake County (CA) that made small-batch olive oil from trees on their estate. Sadly, the trees were destroyed in a fire a few years ago. I'll never forget the taste; it had a very strong olive flavor and was so acidic it actually felt spicy on your tongue. Have never found its equal in a store, no matter how exotic and/or pricey.

A great oil finishing with a strong black pepper taste is fairly achievable if you know where to look.

Zingerman's Mail Order does a phenomenal job of sourcing olive oils like this but also of specifically calling out the tasting notes and the differences in their options.

Two that they have that specifically hit this spiciness you're looking for:

https://www.zingermans.com/Product/petraia-olive-oil/O-PET https://www.zingermans.com/Product/la-spineta-olive-oil/O-SP...

But in my experience, their live chat or phone service is absolutely amazing at guiding you to a great option, too.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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I get California Olive Branch “100% California” EVOO because I heard it was genuine. Do you know if this is true, and if not, which brands are? I only add like 1tsp of oil to the pan when cooking so I can justify using the more expensive brands, though i don’t really taste a difference

Once you heat it, the differences become negligible to nonexistent. Good-quality oils are most important in raw uses, such as dips and salad dressings. It's a hassle to maintain a "cooking olive oil" and a "raw olive oil", so the worst you're doing is wasting a tiny bit of money for the convenience of keeping around just one bottle. As for the particular brand you mention... yes, it's very well reputed. Being produce…

> It's a hassle to maintain a "cooking olive oil" and a "raw olive oil"

I find the price difference(between supermarket extra virgin olive oil, and actually delicious stuff) is pretty significant (4x-5x). Well worth keeping around to bottles.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get California Olive Branch “100% California” EVOO because I heard it was genuine. Do you know if this is true, and if not, which brands are? I only add like 1tsp of oil to the pan when cooking so I can justify using the more expensive brands, though i don’t really taste a difference

> I get California Olive Branch “100% California” EVOO because I heard it was genuine. Do you know if this is true, and if not, which brands are? Broadly speaking, get what you know and what's close. Have a friend in Italy, Greece or Spain? Get it from them. Live in California? Get it from there. The longer the supply and trust chains for something like olive oil, the higher the chances of funny business.

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Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

#80

I’m kind of bad at parsing these studies so maybe someone can help: Did they control for people opting for virgin OO having other confounding lifestyle factors that would cause the effect? I certainly lean towards virgin OO when I’m feeling that I want to be healthy.

> I certainly lean towards virgin OO when I’m feeling that I want to be healthy. Fwiw the use case for non-virgin olive oil is different. You’d want to use non virgin in anything that involves heat as it won’t burn or break down as easily. For anything that you’ll taste (eg dressings) you’d want an extra virgin oil that will have more of the plants’ taste. Could be worth splurging on nice oil for dressings/dipping oi…

I feel like you always want virgin olive oil. Just don’t hear it too high. If you have uses that require high heat then use a completely different oil like coconut.
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