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macOS Ventura is now available

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Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by jedberg »

galoisscobi wrote: post #9

I’m usually excited about macOS releases but this one is an underwhelming update and don’t see any reason to update any time soon. Stage manager seems like a half measure to introduce better window management in macOS and it doesn’t help that it doesn’t support a keyboard only workflow, from what I can tell from the demos. Coming from i3wm, I found Yabai to be an excellent keyboard-first window manager. I do wish som…

If they put a bunch of new features in the OS, everyone complains, "Why don't they focus on stability!!"

If they focus on stability, everyone says, "Not enough new features to be worth the upgrade".

I guess no one can be happy. Or they expect a ton of new instantly stable features...

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by gnicholas »

ezfe wrote: post #36
galoisscobi wrote: post #9

I’m usually excited about macOS releases but this one is an underwhelming update and don’t see any reason to update any time soon. Stage manager seems like a half measure to introduce better window management in macOS and it doesn’t help that it doesn’t support a keyboard only workflow, from what I can tell from the demos. Coming from i3wm, I found Yabai to be an excellent keyboard-first window manager. I do wish som…

I'm updating for these features: better iMessage (editing / unsending / mark as unread), Shared iCloud Photo Library, duplicate detection in Photos, Continuity Camera, Weather app, multi-stop Maps routing

Does Mark As Unread affect whether it shows as read by the sender?

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by jedberg »

sbdaman wrote: post #47

"We've been putting the same 720p webcam in our laptops for 10 years so just go ahead and use your phone instead"

"We could increase the BOM cost putting a bigger camera in but the thickness of the laptop lid is so thin it would never be as good as the phone you most likely already own, so we made it easer for you to use that".

It's all a matter of perspective. :) I love the ability to use my phone as a webcam.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by rcarmo »

sramsay wrote: post #50
rcarmo wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I certainly hope the command-line tools are up to date. Otherwise upgrading brew and all its ecosystem might be somewhat of a pain.

Right now, homebrew is refusing to compile packages from source: Error: Your Xcode (14.0.1) is too outdated. Please update to Xcode 14.1 (or delete it). Xcode can be updated from the App Store.

There _is_ a switch for that someplace. Or check the environment variables in the docs, I had that issue once in the past.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by lelandfe »

max_hammer wrote: post #57
zestyping wrote: post #16

Countless person-years of engineering effort, and Spotlight is still mostly useless. All I want is to hit Command-F to quickly search the filenames in the current folder (not start a sluggish scan of my entire hard disk). There used to be workarounds for this, but then they removed "Find by Name..." from Finder just to make our lives harder. Does anyone know a workable alternative?

I started using Alfred app recently on my work laptop. It's far superior than `Spotlight` https://www.alfredapp.com/

It should be embarrassing how much faster Alfred's search is. Using Alfred to just search feels like using a Ferrari to pick up groceries, but it really is just better – and has been for as long as I can remember.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by jshier »

highwaylights wrote: post #18
terracatta wrote: post #3

For IT/Security folks looking for a good rundown of what's new we put this together, talks about Passkeys, RSR, Gatekeeper improvements, and Lockdown mode. https://www.kolide.com/blog/the-security-and-it-admin-s-guid...

Passkeys is a bit of an odd one. They’ve been listing it as a Ventura upgrade, and all the marketing (more or less) points to this as a Ventura-and-later feature, but it’s on Big Sur and Monterey too.

It's really a Safari 16.1 feature, and 16.1 was released with Ventura, so I guess they're capitalizing on that publicity to drive the feature.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by _jal »

sjtgraham wrote: post #52
_jal wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, much like on the phone, Lockdown is really attractive to me to just run all the time. - I never want executable content sent to me via messages. - I already block web fonts everywhere I can. I do want to know what other "complex web technologies" are blocked. - I don't care about Facetime. - I don't use Apple services or Icloud. - Ignoring USB when locked should be a default.

> I do want to know what other "complex web technologies" are blocked. JIT compilation, WASM, WebGL, Speech Recognition API, and the Web Audio API

Thanks. Yep, still works for me.
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