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Pocket Casts goes open source

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Re: Pocket Casts goes open source

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Post by simjnd »

Barrin92 wrote: post #47
niklaslogren wrote: post #38

Pretty off-topic, but: > I hope that Pocket Casts can do for podcast clients what Firefox in the early days and Chromium now does for browsers — push the state of the art, be manically focused on user control, and grow a more decentralized and open web. It's pretty funny to see the claim that Chromium is "manically focused on user control" and "is growing a more decentralised and open web" :-)

it's true though isn't it? Some people keep complaining about chromium related apps, but from different browsers to electron based apps it has without a doubt pushed open source like almost nothing else, it's sort of the OS of the web.

The OS of the web crippling extensions and plugins because it hurts its ad-business is not what I would call "being focused on user-control". They're focused on control, yes, but not in our favour.

Re: Pocket Casts goes open source

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Post by skinnymuch »

neverrroot wrote: post #23

Hope someone can add a feature for recording snippets, and maybe even one for bookmarks with notes. One of the hardest things to keep track of, getting back to the interesting pieces of a podcast. Every episode I listen to has something worth remembering, right now managing that is truly cumbersome / time consuming.

Airr.io and Snipd.com do the note taking. Both also do the snippets part.

Re: Pocket Casts goes open source

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Post by izacus »

simjnd wrote: post #71
Barrin92 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's true though isn't it? Some people keep complaining about chromium related apps, but from different browsers to electron based apps it has without a doubt pushed open source like almost nothing else, it's sort of the OS of the web.

The OS of the web crippling extensions and plugins because it hurts its ad-business is not what I would call "being focused on user-control". They're focused on control, yes, but not in our favour.

Users of Chromium have announced that they will reenable those extensions and plugins - so what, exactly, is the problem there?

This is opensource working as intended - someone else can build it with feature set you want.

Re: Pocket Casts goes open source

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Post by JamesonNetworks »

Not to hijack the thread to advertise, but if you are looking for a one off fee podcast player, I've been using iCatcher and I really like the experience. One time fee for the app, and I really hope it stays that way. Developer is responsive and the app is really solid.

Re: Pocket Casts goes open source

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Post by hackeraccount »

neverrroot wrote: post #23

Hope someone can add a feature for recording snippets, and maybe even one for bookmarks with notes. One of the hardest things to keep track of, getting back to the interesting pieces of a podcast. Every episode I listen to has something worth remembering, right now managing that is truly cumbersome / time consuming.

I either want pocketcast to get a snippet type feature on snipd/overcast to have a web client. One or the other isn't too much to ask I think.

Re: Pocket Casts goes open source

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Post by andrepd »

mhb wrote: post #62
andrepd wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AntennaPod also has those stats :) I was a pretty hardcore fan of pocketcasts but eventually switched to AntennaPod and I couldn't be happier.

Why?

PocketCasts is a superb app but I saw AntennaPod on f-droid, so I thought to give it a go. I was pleasantly surprised, the interface is very nice and syncs with gpodder.net

Re: Pocket Casts goes open source

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Post by mrobins »

nl wrote: post #18
bestham wrote: post #17

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No one stole anything from you. An online service you are not continuously paying for is not a service where you are the customer.

Wow. That's a new take on the old trope "if you aren't paying you aren't the customer". It's obviously untrue. For many services the marginal cost of supporting a paid user on an ongoing basis approaches zero. I'd imagine this is one. They presumably store some subscription and profile data and that's about it.

Respectfully disagree. An obligation to maintain a service in perpetuity for no revenue becomes a huge unfunded liability.

What if the app falls out of favor and new marginal revenue can’t cover fixed costs?

What if the business wants to innovate in a way that dramatically changes its cost structure (maybe introduce a feature that requires a usage based license)? Sure you can gate older users but how long do you have to maintain a separate set of features for them?

Obviously it’s the apps responsibility to make a fair deal with users and stick to terms offered. Sure some companies can make a model that amortizes an upfront payment effectively over decades. In reality though, all that really matters to a company is new cash that pays expenses. If you’re not contributing to that at some point you are no longer the customer.

Re: Pocket Casts goes open source

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Post by nxte »

yzydserd wrote: post #30
jimmySixDOF wrote: post #14

After being a user for many many years, I just recently tested out to Snipd [1] and have not looked back since. Pocket Cast were great but I don't see them innovating. With Snipd there is almost always a full text transcript available including a surprisingly accurate AI generated Table of Contents to cue through. Then I can easily save a transcribed clip of some section I am listening to for export to a TfT program…

Thanks for this. Pocket Cast user 2013-2018 Castro user 2018-2022. I switched to them after an awful PC rewrite. Snipd looks interesting. May be my 2022-2026 daily driver.

When, oh when, will Castro make an iPad app? I'm convinced that no one is working on it full time.

Re: Pocket Casts goes open source

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Post by [deleted] »

Karsteski wrote: post #69
scarface74 wrote: post #57

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Software development in the age of mobile requires continuous development. Who is going to pay for development of new features?

I mean, that's all fine and well. Just don't sell products then take them away after because you can. Imagine buying physical goods and having the business owner come to your house and take it away because it was costing them too much. Insanity.

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Re: Pocket Casts goes open source

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Post by nxte »

skinnymuch wrote: post #67
astorsnk wrote: post #45

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Exactly! What features do we really need? Many “feature” suggestions I come across are people trying to make podcasts something they’re not so that they suit the person writing.

Snipd’s features are great. What kind of feature is making podcasts what they aren’t? Taking notes makes sense to me for podcasts. Syncing with https://Readwise.io makes sense to me too.

As someone who's never taken notes while listening to podcasts, I'm curious what your use cases are. Do you listen as part of your research for a project?
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