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Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

aliqot wrote: post #10
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't get why do every org do this. A simple mail about the takedown to the owner with few lines explaining the situation shouldn't be difficult, and I would say it is the best ROI to prevent PR damage like this.

Any service known for not proactively removing content will be overburdened as users from other services who submit 'complaint-generating' content will flock to your service. When people who submit these complaints don't feel like you acquiesced in their favor they will assemble and call you out. Your service will be known as a safe harbor for groups of ill repute and eventually you may be forced to shutter the servi…

I am not saying don't remove content. I am saying that mailing 5 sentence reasoning would just take 5 minutes and would save lot of pain specially for complex and effort taking content like code repository where the volume of removal is likely less than handful per day.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by spookie »

aliqot wrote: post #10
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't get why do every org do this. A simple mail about the takedown to the owner with few lines explaining the situation shouldn't be difficult, and I would say it is the best ROI to prevent PR damage like this.

Any service known for not proactively removing content will be overburdened as users from other services who submit 'complaint-generating' content will flock to your service. When people who submit these complaints don't feel like you acquiesced in their favor they will assemble and call you out. Your service will be known as a safe harbor for groups of ill repute and eventually you may be forced to shutter the servi…

Wikiless isn't any of that, though?

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by mdaniel »

JanMa wrote: post #36
strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

Keybase also has support for hosting Git repos: https://book.keybase.io/git

I'd exercise caution building on top of it since I don't think Zoom cares about Keybase and I was unable to find any server among their repositories (https://github.com/orgs/keybase/repositories) such that one could self-host after Zoom bores of running the Keybase infra

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by RobotToaster »

severino wrote: post #16
strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

Gitee (gitee.com) is also a free hosting service that can be used for OSS, afaik.

Fun fact, they're literally backed by the Chinese government who are trying to promote open source, I assume because it can't be embargoed.

On the bright side I suppose that means they shouldn't have any of those pesky commercial pressures to start charging people.

I don't think I need to say what the down sides are.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by ipaddr »

aliqot wrote: post #10
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't get why do every org do this. A simple mail about the takedown to the owner with few lines explaining the situation shouldn't be difficult, and I would say it is the best ROI to prevent PR damage like this.

Any service known for not proactively removing content will be overburdened as users from other services who submit 'complaint-generating' content will flock to your service. When people who submit these complaints don't feel like you acquiesced in their favor they will assemble and call you out. Your service will be known as a safe harbor for groups of ill repute and eventually you may be forced to shutter the servi…

Taking down content immediately based on one party making a claim is ripe to be abused. Take down the wrong person and masses will gather and call you out as well. This site has a question mark after they did this. Just based on that information I wouldn't rush to this service because someone will have an easier time shutting the project down here than elsewhere

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by knowledge-clay »

capableweb wrote: post #26
strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

Worth noting as well, from the list of various hosting services, Codeberg is the only one explicitly for FOSS software and not for proprietary software. Sourcehut seems to be in the box of everything for running the service is FOSS but they would be OK with hosting non-FOSS software, whereas Codeberg isn't for hosting proprietary software at all. From the FAQ ( https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/#is-it-all…

There was a discussion on sourcehut about making this change to their TOS, not sure what happened with it though

https://lists.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/sr.ht-discuss/%3CC32T7UNXIK7O....

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by remram »

proxysna wrote: post #14
oever wrote: post #5

> However, you won’t be getting the advanced features like automation or other integration and collaboration features provided by GitHub. Codeberg is working on CI and you can request early access. I've found it to work well and fast. https://codeberg.org/Codeberg-CI

Nice to Woodpecker CI getting some traction. Great software for selfhosted ci. Simpler to start than Jenkins, not as flexible ofc, but most projects do not require that amount of flexibility and footguns. Woodpecker one of the best tools for small/medium self-hosted CI's out there atm.

I just took one look, I had never heard of it before, and... it's depending on the serialization order of steps in the YAML to run pipelines?! What fresh hell is this?

Loading the YAML file in a language where dictionaries/hashmaps don't preserve the insertion order and serializing again will break your file? How could they fail at such a basic step of making a YAML-configurable CI system?

This is the worst abuse of YAML I have ever seen. Was putting `-` in front of each step too obvious?

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