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Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by phpthrowaway99 »

timr wrote: post #23
classichasclass wrote: post #13

My wife took three months to recover. I have a friend roughly my age who still hasn't (about four months in). My dad is dead. And people wonder why I don't blow it off. I've yet to get it, and I don't want to.

I've had it and everyone I know has had it (now in the dozens), including a number of elderly people. Everyone is fine. I recovered in a week, and out of literally dozens of people, I've not met anyone who took longer than that. I'm sorry about your dad, but let's not exaggerate based on personal anecdotes. The stories that get upvoted are the ones that scare people.

What's crazier is that if you run in circles of the unvaccinated, you almost think it's all in everyone's head. I mentioned earlier I work in a company where almost no one got vaccinated. We're somewhat customer facing, but did wear masks when the state required it.

Almost no one has gotten covid of any of my friends/coworkers. I've been casual as can be, never touching a hand wash squirter, going out in SF outdoor and indoor dining if they didn't check, and haven't been sick since 2018 or early 2019. Before that, I was actually one of those sickness manchilds that honestly twice a year would almost be unable to function for an entire week.

I'm about starting to think people can will themselves into not getting sick, and maybe will themselves into it.

My friends don't believe in it, and I and others haven't sniffled in 2 years.

Downvote away for personal experiences Im sure.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by John23832 »

phpthrowaway99 wrote: post #67
John23832 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's not an implication, and it doesn't matter, then why was it brought up here? Nobody is denying that people die randomly, the question here is the whether there is a subset of people who have symptoms and die randomly that can be attributed to covid. It seem like the actual implication is that covid cannot be the cause of anyone's symptoms or deaths and that this is much to do about nothing... which imo to tota…

He never had covid to anyone's knowledge, atleast he never took any time off for it and never showed symptoms. All we know is he was vaccinated, went to the gym, was energetic at work, and died in his sleep. I was just making a point that covid related anecdata exists on all sides. In response to the guy above me giving out his singular anecdata point. Edit: also, I had met the guy 3 years ago and talked for 10+ minu…

Then there was an implication? That the anecdote isn't representative of what is actually happening?

Stop being coy.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by adrr »

timr wrote: post #23
classichasclass wrote: post #13

My wife took three months to recover. I have a friend roughly my age who still hasn't (about four months in). My dad is dead. And people wonder why I don't blow it off. I've yet to get it, and I don't want to.

I've had it and everyone I know has had it (now in the dozens), including a number of elderly people. Everyone is fine. I recovered in a week, and out of literally dozens of people, I've not met anyone who took longer than that. I'm sorry about your dad, but let's not exaggerate based on personal anecdotes. The stories that get upvoted are the ones that scare people.

Article references a study saying 50% of people haven't fully recovered after a few months. Whats the exaggeration? Still hundreds of people dying a day from covid in the US which is 4X higher than the flu for comparison.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by [deleted] »

timr wrote: post #28
John23832 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ones that upvoted are the ones that people relate to? i.e. they've had the same experience. People aren't just upvoting covid porn.

A lot of people are, in fact, amplifying things that scare them (or things that trigger emotions). All I've done here is share an equivalent, balancing anecdote.

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Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by phpthrowaway99 »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #68
phpthrowaway99 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He never had covid to anyone's knowledge, atleast he never took any time off for it and never showed symptoms. All we know is he was vaccinated, went to the gym, was energetic at work, and died in his sleep. I was just making a point that covid related anecdata exists on all sides. In response to the guy above me giving out his singular anecdata point. Edit: also, I had met the guy 3 years ago and talked for 10+ minu…

Here's a scary thought: everyone who's ever gotten vaccinated against COVID will die. Eventually. Just like everyone else.

Here's a scary thought more scary than your platitude.

In 5-10 years, we might find that everyone that got the vaccine does die like everyone dies.. except they die several years earlier than average.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by [deleted] »

timr wrote: post #43
darkteflon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dude just told us he’s lost his dad, and your second paragraph was “let’s not exaggerate”. Your original comment - sharing your own anecdote - would’ve been better without the second paragraph.

Yes. The fact that someone's father died is tragic. It still doesn't give them carte blanche to exaggerate or emphasize scary anecdotes at the expense of boring ones.

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Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by jonas21 »

phpthrowaway99 wrote: post #67
John23832 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's not an implication, and it doesn't matter, then why was it brought up here? Nobody is denying that people die randomly, the question here is the whether there is a subset of people who have symptoms and die randomly that can be attributed to covid. It seem like the actual implication is that covid cannot be the cause of anyone's symptoms or deaths and that this is much to do about nothing... which imo to tota…

He never had covid to anyone's knowledge, atleast he never took any time off for it and never showed symptoms. All we know is he was vaccinated, went to the gym, was energetic at work, and died in his sleep. I was just making a point that covid related anecdata exists on all sides. In response to the guy above me giving out his singular anecdata point. Edit: also, I had met the guy 3 years ago and talked for 10+ minu…

How is this anecdote COVID-related? I feel like I'm missing something, unless this is some sort of shaggy dog story.

EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaggy_dog_story

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by dathinab »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #53

I know 21 people that have had covid, from 3 to 91. 1 person had long covid, still requires oxygen months later. Either my friends and family are unduly healthy, or there's maybe something questionable about the "half". If I flipped a coin 21 times and it only came up tails once, I wouldn't believe it was a fair coin...

All cases which I know personally which didn't had asymptotic COVID took multiple month to _fully_ recover.

That doesn't mean they hadn't recovered enough to work or socialize a bit again after much less time. But they still had problems like for example bouts of weakness well over a month later.

This kind of long term Symptoms aren't that rare for more serve virus infections in general. They are unusual common with COVID but other viruses can cause that, too. It's just that many societies force people to treat this as if they are fine and power through it, maybe by using non-prescription drugs. While I hadn't(1) had COVID yet I went through similar situations twice in my live in the past. Strong virus infection, fast "recovery" to a point I could go back to school but slightly over a month until I was actually fully recovered with funny experiences like nearly passing out when doing sport in a amount which I had been trivially able to do before the virus infection.

(1): At least no positive test.

Anyway the point I want to make is:

- fully recovered can mean many things

- it's not a fundamentally new thing

- but due to high covid rates and being relatively more likely with covid, it has become a problem.

- It's a problem even if the number is much less then half depending on the definitions you use for fully recovered and of what you take half.

Re: Nearly half of Covid patients haven’t fully recovered months later, study finds

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Post by lend000 »

colordrops wrote: post #51
lend000 wrote: post #19

Anecdata: I had what seemed like relatively mild covid in March 2020, but never fully recovered, and I ended up unable to do strenuous or stressful activity without a super fight or flight physical response. I was in my 20's, and originally very active and fit, although I ate a very high sugar/carb diet. I took a lot of tests and tried a lot of things and made no progress with doctors for about 2 years, until I tried…

I assume you are taking tongkat. Are you concerned at all about reduction in endogenous testosterone production? Did you take a testosterone test?

Tribulus Terrestris, at a low dose. It probably isn't doing much to be honest, but I'm trying not to add or remove too many things at once. That will probably be the next one to go.
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