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BuiltWith: $14M ARR, no employees

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Re: BuiltWith: $14M ARR, no employees

#71
I tested some of my websites.

While I got accurate results for some projects, it showed completely wrong information about other projects...

E.g. it shows stuff with which I may experimented for one day but which isn't used on the project since multiple years anymore.

Re: BuiltWith: $14M ARR, no employees

#72

$14M ARR appears to be urban legend. If anyone has a source that’s the founder saying this, please reply with a link. ___________ This tweet appears to be the source of the legend: >> “BuiltWith is an amazing site that I use regularly. But it's also an amazing business. 1 fulltime employee. $14m a year in revenue. [...] Disclaimer: I do not know 100% if this is true.” Source: - https://twitter.com/thesamparr/status/1…

I agree this sounds suspect.

A lot of people don’t realize what “$14mm ARR” means. The contract, accounting and legal work alone would require a couple of people.

Not to mention Infrastructure, monitoring, QA, etc - all that good stuff.

It costs money to generate revenue.

Re: BuiltWith: $14M ARR, no employees

#73
post #14

The key takeaway for me was that the mid-2000s were the perfect time to be a founder of a software tool. I can’t help but feel that there are so many tens of thousands of similar stories without such a successful conclusion. In previous roles I’ve used BuiltWith before and it’s an invaluable tool. There’s a few companies with similar approaches except focusing on social media profiles (HypeAuditor comes to mind) that…

I'm having trouble replicating my own success from that era. Everything is more complicated today: the development stacks, the competitive landscape, the vast increase in regulations and liability around handling data, the move from an open web to social media silos and mobile apps, scammers and bots winning the spam wars and destroying most online advertising. I still have businesses I started in the 2000s and early…

> the vast increase in regulations and liability around handling data,

Can you elaborate on this or give examples where these bigger hurdles than they used to be? I'm curious to know in what domains this is the case. I've no doubt that it is true, but my sense was that there are still large swaths of "internety" products that are entirely or mostly unregulated and where there isn't much to be said about how you handle data, but I could be wrong. I'd be very interested in any concrete examples you may have had in mind.

Re: BuiltWith: $14M ARR, no employees

#74

I remember stumbling across this site years ago, thought it was neat, and never thought about it again. There's definitely a lot of untapped potential here. Could be so much bigger with marketing and R&D. A browser extension for example.

Does it matter? The founder is wealthy and can do whatever they want in life. Why would he spend a single second working?

Re: BuiltWith: $14M ARR, no employees

#76

Don't hire until you need to. And then don't hire until you want to. I'm doubtful every business can make it to $14M ARR, but I bet many companies could generate $1M ARR without needing employees. And that amount of money would be life-changing for many people (with, of course, the potential to sell what you've created to exit). I've spent much of my life chasing the "make it big" startup dream. I'll be pretty conten…

I've been making a little progress on the "building things I love that generate revenue" piece (in part thanks to the HN crowd!), but oh boy, do the goalposts always keep shifting. I remember the first dollar I ever made on the internet felt so amazing and validating... but several adjustments later, the mentality is more like "okay, but I still can't do this full-time." Goalposts aside though, I'd agree that if ther…

Care to share what kinds of things you've built or are currently building?

Re: BuiltWith: $14M ARR, no employees

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The photo at the top is almost 10 years old, and was from when BW still had a cofounder. It doesn't any more. He probably doesn't have that office any more.

Quoted post unavailable.

Yeah I'm wondering why Dan is replying to so many of these comments. I don't get it :P

Re: BuiltWith: $14M ARR, no employees

#78

$14M ARR appears to be urban legend. If anyone has a source that’s the founder saying this, please reply with a link. ___________ This tweet appears to be the source of the legend: >> “BuiltWith is an amazing site that I use regularly. But it's also an amazing business. 1 fulltime employee. $14m a year in revenue. [...] Disclaimer: I do not know 100% if this is true.” Source: - https://twitter.com/thesamparr/status/1…

I agree this sounds suspect. A lot of people don’t realize what “$14mm ARR” means. The contract, accounting and legal work alone would require a couple of people. Not to mention Infrastructure, monitoring, QA, etc - all that good stuff. It costs money to generate revenue.

My bet is employees here refers to full-time salaried employees.

No doubt they work with contractors and freelancers. The article even says they have "a few people to write content for the blog".

Re: BuiltWith: $14M ARR, no employees

#80

100% rent-based business. the computers do all the work, the owners just collect the money. the societal mistake is to regard this as 'wealth production'; it's not. this is rent. this is where creative productivity (arguably real actual wealth) goes to die.

Who are they extracting rent from?

Other economic actors
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