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Re: Upgrade to Linux

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Post by Filligree »

the_jesus_villa wrote: post #63
Kim_Bruning wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know that some people say "virus" when they mean malware in general. However, a literal virus is a snippet of code that attaches itself to an executable. When the executable is run, the virus also runs. The virus then finds more executables and attaches itself to those too. Literal viruses on diverse unices were indeed fairly rare in the past (and are still not common). Traditionally on most linuxes (and bsds) you…

>Traditionally on most linuxes (and bsds) you obtain trusted executables from a known good source (your distribution ) , whilst files from other sources are never run at all. On the other hand, the vast majority of people installing applications by piping curl output to Bash are also on linuxes and bsds

Doesn't seem that different from running the application after installing it, to be honest.

Re: Upgrade to Linux

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Post by phi-y »

kiwih wrote: post #66

I love Linux systems. My daily driver, an MSI GS-66, runs Ubuntu as the primary OS. But despite the fact that it's 2022, I still have to spend at least a few hours every month fixing things. The latest issue is that after updating the kernel and graphics drivers, I can't suspend the PC anymore. It dumps a bunch of crap to dmesg, then returns to the login screen. This is a known issue on the forums, and it's still bro…

You should consider more linux friendly hardware next time if you still want to run linux. I have mostly owned thinkpads and desktops set up with ubuntu/mint, and my issues have been few and far between.

The GS-66 is a gaming laptop with an NVidia card. The nouveau driver does pretty good, but I find trying to upgrade to the latest version or installing Nvidia's official driver causes more problems than it solves. For the wifi, the Intel Killer AX from only a quick google search looks like it has known issues.

There are a lot of hardware companies that are actively hostile to linux users. MSI is definitely one. Lenovo's Thinkpad and Dell's XPS lines have a big audience to test and fix issues.

MSI can make extra money off of window's users after sale, but HW companies only profit off linux users from selling the hardware.

Re: Upgrade to Linux

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Post by free652 »

Upgrade to ChromeOs. why bother with Linux. I converted an old windows laptop with a touchscreen to a chromeos using now google acquired neverware. love it.

Re: Upgrade to Linux

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Post by thesandlord »

hayst4ck wrote: post #62

Direct marketing doesn't seem like a very good method to attract people. Linux needs to do one thing to make it a viable option: Make steam and all windows based steam games work out of the box. Linux needs to do one thing to win the consumer market: Make all steam games work better than on windows out of the box. If linux can do that, they can win a market that is not the server market. If Linux cannot do that, then…

The Steam Deck is basically this. IMO it runs games in Linux better than Windows (especially with gamescope and the instant sleep and resume feature) and has played every game I have thrown at it. I assume at the pace Valve is updating SteamOS and Proton it will play everything but the super long tail of games soon.

Re: Upgrade to Linux

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Post by jcelerier »

kiwih wrote: post #66

I love Linux systems. My daily driver, an MSI GS-66, runs Ubuntu as the primary OS. But despite the fact that it's 2022, I still have to spend at least a few hours every month fixing things. The latest issue is that after updating the kernel and graphics drivers, I can't suspend the PC anymore. It dumps a bunch of crap to dmesg, then returns to the login screen. This is a known issue on the forums, and it's still bro…

Strange, I have a GS65 which is pretty close and with archlinux it works smoothly with the Nvidia driver. All the bugs I had on Linux also manifested in some ways on windows so I think it just has shitty firmware.

Re: Upgrade to Linux

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Post by cpsns »

OJFord wrote: post #51
tetraca wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it was still the year N-10 then this would be a great X more or less sums up my entire desktop linux experience.

Ever use a 'window manager', particularly tiling, rather than a full 'desktop' or 'display manager'? I've had the opposite experience, i3 and now sway have made macOS & Windows clunky and unusable nightmares to me - even talking strictly just about interface/windowing/interaction.

I have and I’ve never been able to understand tiling WMs. After using nontiling ( I don’t know the term) window managers since Windows 95 my mind is just trained for that sort of window management, anything else feels wrong and frustrating.

It’s not for a lack of trying either, I really have tried to like tiling wms.

Re: Upgrade to Linux

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Post by sylens »

least wrote: post #10

This website is terrible. Its "resources" are almost entirely just links to articles and youtube videos. The information is poorly presented and poorly written. Why is the front page entirely taken up by a picture of a penguin?

I rolled my eyes when I saw the first resource linked under "Why" was a video titled "Microsoft Can Kiss My A*"

Re: Upgrade to Linux

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Post by jcelerier »

xupybd wrote: post #45

Having worked in Linux for years, I'm sorry Windows is more productive for me. MS office still dominates and our company and customers work in Excel. Without support for office Linux is harder than Windows for me. With WSL2 almost everything I can do in Linux I can now do in Windows. Don't get me wrong there are things that I hate about working in Windows. Especially Windows shared folders and mapped drives. Compared…

Today I had to dual boot on windows and literally every operation & interaction felt five times as slow as on Linux on the same hardware. I had a ton of bugs on software that works just fine on Linux. Explorer crashed at some point and I had to add a fucking registry key to enable long paths.

I'm 30 and I never had to use MS Office once in my life, LibreOffice works fine with everything I had to do with it

Re: Upgrade to Linux

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Post by adwf »

This almost feels like some sort of anti-linux trolling. Suspicious number of pro-Windows comments in the first couple of hours, all focused on the sub-par website, not the OS.

Re: Upgrade to Linux

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Post by acomjean »

headsoup wrote: post #64
hayst4ck wrote: post #62

Direct marketing doesn't seem like a very good method to attract people. Linux needs to do one thing to make it a viable option: Make steam and all windows based steam games work out of the box. Linux needs to do one thing to win the consumer market: Make all steam games work better than on windows out of the box. If linux can do that, they can win a market that is not the server market. If Linux cannot do that, then…

To be honest, it's closer than you'd think. I find very few games now that I can't run through Steam+Proton, to the point I forget I'm not on the 'Native' OS for them. And what I've also found is that issues that affect my games on Linux Steam are usually also reported for Windows (i.e. black screen on loading, certain freezes).

Steam is remarkably good at running games on linux. I've been using "heroic games launcher" with GOG.com and epic gamesto good effect.

I have a steam deck and it occasionally asks me how well the game I just left ran, cloud sourcing. The steam deck is great, highly recommended (my first unit had a bad battery, but valve handled it quite well and after trying some mitigations, just replaced it).

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