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It seems strange that this comment was so aggressively down voted. Anything related to Elon gets the same treatment by HN that I feel that Elon invites a visceral rather than an objective reaction.
He's generally a force of good for the world but can come over as a bit of a dick sometimes, there are much worse people out there if you need to hate on someone.
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It is. Let's check by two measures: 1. 160k people have bought and recieved FSD Beta at somewhere between $5 and $15k (today's price). Let's say an average of $8k, that means $1.28 billion. More have bought it but are waiting to get access. 2. FSD take rate is estimated as of now to be around 7% of vehicles sold world-wide. At the current price of $15k and the estimated 1.4 million vehicles sold this year, that amoun…
technically that's still not billions. It's still crazy to me that people are paying all this money now for a product that still isn't delivering the promises of 5 years ago though.
The criticism of Tesla is always devoid of context of the rest of the car industry.
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In a way. The motion was not spectacular like Boston Dynamics. But any walking robot especially at that height and size is a significant engineering achievement. And they have been working on it for months rather than years. And the system is entirely electric unlike Boston Dynamics. The last demo was a person in a suit. Your expectations were unrealistic if you are not impressed.
Similar robots are built every year in colleges around the globe by jr robotics teams. Walking robots have been around for 25 plus years. There was zero to be impressed about. Walking robots are to robotics as hello world is to programming.
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It seems strange that this comment was so aggressively down voted. Anything related to Elon gets the same treatment by HN that I feel that Elon invites a visceral rather than an objective reaction.
Because Elon is snakes oil salesman, who thinks he’s smartest and most important human in the history. He also happens to have some very successful products, that his fan base uses to silence any criticism.
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In a way. The motion was not spectacular like Boston Dynamics. But any walking robot especially at that height and size is a significant engineering achievement. And they have been working on it for months rather than years. And the system is entirely electric unlike Boston Dynamics. The last demo was a person in a suit. Your expectations were unrealistic if you are not impressed.
Similar robots are built every year in colleges around the globe by jr robotics teams. Walking robots have been around for 25 plus years. There was zero to be impressed about. Walking robots are to robotics as hello world is to programming.
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In a way. The motion was not spectacular like Boston Dynamics. But any walking robot especially at that height and size is a significant engineering achievement. And they have been working on it for months rather than years. And the system is entirely electric unlike Boston Dynamics. The last demo was a person in a suit. Your expectations were unrealistic if you are not impressed.
Similar robots are built every year in colleges around the globe by jr robotics teams. Walking robots have been around for 25 plus years. There was zero to be impressed about. Walking robots are to robotics as hello world is to programming.
You say this confidently, but it is nowhere close to true.
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When shopping carts were introduced into stores people were angry because it would “take away the jobs of the employees shopping for you”. That’s obviously ridiculous. They went and did more productive things in the store. The same will apply here.
He's literally talking about eliminating jobs from the Tesla factory in Fremont. And then he takes a further step and discusses in eliminating all manual labor. I think it's reasonable to consider the chance a fully mobile non-human humanoid will actually disrupt labor more so than the invention of a shopping cart. I'm talking about marginalized people who are under educated and have very good reason to believe that…
Bringing race into this is nonsense. If the robots are taking jobs, do you think they care what color someone is? They don't. And it's literally going to come for everyone's current job. Which is a good thing, so long as we have an economic system that evolves alongside it. This is quite literally the only way to eliminate poverty in totality.
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Elon is super smart. He’s also a snake oil salesman. These are not contradictory statements. Unfortunately he chose his intelligence to enrich himself by fooling others. He could have chosen other options. It looked like that was the direction he was going in. By trying to help people. But it’s clear at some point he realized he can make far more money claiming to do something than by actually doing something and dec…
> Unfortunately he chose his intelligence to enrich himself by fooling others. You make it sound like he's selling ads online or something, not building rockets and electric cars, self-driving software and now robots? Like, if you wanted to make as much money as possible and "fool" people as you say, doing a rocket company and a new car company at the same time, pouring all the $100m you earned from selling your prev…
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Because Elon is snakes oil salesman, who thinks he’s smartest and most important human in the history. He also happens to have some very successful products, that his fan base uses to silence any criticism.
So he is at the same time a snake oil salesmen that also not a snake oil salesmen because he revolutionized 2 major capital intensive industries. You realize that makes no sense?
Most robotics as far as I understand are designed to be specific to a set of tasks, and the design is optimized around that, thus no other industrial robots look exactly like humans, as far as I am aware. Are they being too ambitious, and romantic, in trying to design a robot that does too much while looking like a human?