Two ancient pieces of software, together at last.
Citrix acquired and merged with Tibco for $16.5B
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Re: Citrix acquired and merged with Tibco for $16.5B
#72I just find it fascinating that I can go through my life and see things like this: "[Company I've never heard of] and [Another company I've never heard of], something something, billions and billions of dollars". And these companies and the people who run them probably have a non-trivial impact on my life, if not directly than indirectly. It's just fascinating.
be thankful, both of them produce awful, awful software the citrix garbage I have to use to log into work is like Windows 95, it regularly corrupts its own install (on a machine only used for that) and of course the uninstaller doesn't clean up everything, so you have to download a separate program to clean that up and the less said about tibco rendezvous the better
Citrix Workspace? The client? Very stable for me and Citrix VDI is pretty amazing on low bandwidth.
Re: Citrix acquired and merged with Tibco for $16.5B
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Citrix are pretty ubiquitous in the corporate space. Not as big a deal as they were ten or 15 years ago, but still a huge company that powers a lot of businesses.
Spot on with Citrix not being as big a deal as they once were. 10 years ago any reasonable sized desktop app deployment went through Citrix, now it's migrating to web apps. I struggle to see the long term value proposition in Citrix but my experience is limited to finance and pharma.
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Re: Citrix acquired and merged with Tibco for $16.5B
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tibco is responsible for Jaspersoft. Jaspersoft is both insanely powerful and will make you want to kill the authors and then yourself. There isn’t really anything else that does what it does though and you can take that statement both ways. I really hate Jaspersoft but unless you work in a certain kind of enterprise environment you can go an entire career without running into it.
I haven’t thought about JasperSoft since 2009. I didn’t know it was still a thing,
Was as of 2019 when I left that job and never had to touch that monstrosity again.
Re: Citrix acquired and merged with Tibco for $16.5B
#75I just find it fascinating that I can go through my life and see things like this: "[Company I've never heard of] and [Another company I've never heard of], something something, billions and billions of dollars". And these companies and the people who run them probably have a non-trivial impact on my life, if not directly than indirectly. It's just fascinating.
Tibco is responsible for Jaspersoft. Jaspersoft is both insanely powerful and will make you want to kill the authors and then yourself. There isn’t really anything else that does what it does though and you can take that statement both ways. I really hate Jaspersoft but unless you work in a certain kind of enterprise environment you can go an entire career without running into it.
Don't worry, it's super extensible! All you have to is write a java class with the right interface, modify a massive spring xml file, and inject your class at the one right place to make everything work!
Hope you didn't want documentation on the class interface though. I'm sure you can figure it out from context...
Re: Citrix acquired and merged with Tibco for $16.5B
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you didn't have a old-style corporate job, how would you encounter Citrix?
Because it is a very well known software company. I have never used Citrix, but to me its as a name the same way as VMWare, SAP, EMC, Salesforce and Intuit is.
Again, all those are old-style enterprise software. If you didn't work in a legacy corporate environment, you'd never encounter them.
Re: Citrix acquired and merged with Tibco for $16.5B
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Citrix are pretty ubiquitous in the corporate space. Not as big a deal as they were ten or 15 years ago, but still a huge company that powers a lot of businesses.
Citrix originally licensed the technology for the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) to Microsoft. RDP was a pared back version of Citrix, and the license terms left Citrix free to sell a with a more fully-featured virtualised desktop product running on top of Windows Server.
Wikipedia says "Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) is a proprietary protocol developed by Microsoft" and that "[the] Terminal Services Edition of NT 4.0 relied on Citrix's MultiWin technology, previously provided as a part of Citrix WinFrame atop Windows NT 3.51, in order to support multiple users and login sessions simultaneously". Based on this it sounds to me like the protocol itself was the work of Microsoft and that Citrix built an extension to the server that multiplexed it. It also later remarks that "[the] T.128 application sharing technology was acquired by Microsoft from UK software developer Data Connection Limited", so it would seem that the protocol itself is a series of extensions developed on top of an open standard that they got via acquisition.
Years ago I worked in defense contracting. The US Department of Defense uses Citrix (which is easily Google-able; don't come at me about "OpSec") and my experience with it was always abysmal compared to RDP. I have a funny feeling that even with Microsoft in the mix it'd be cheaper and better for everybody involved to just pay M$ for the RDP CALs and ditch the dinosaur that is Citrix altogether.
Re: Citrix acquired and merged with Tibco for $16.5B
#78Background on the deal. TIBCO was acquired by Vista Equity Partners 8 years ago and has been a disaster investment. Growth never picked up despite their investments in product, technology, sales and marketing. As a result, TIBCO was stuck selling better software from acquisitions to their existing customer base. Large cap private equity investors like Thoma Bravo, Silver Lake and Blackstone noticed TIBCO's failures m…
I disagree this is necessarily good for PE. PE/late stage VC used to have a game plan for how to dress these companies up to get huge growth multipliers, and then stick them in the S&P 500, but that game looks dead. Tiger Global was the poster child for this, and their -50% returns this year should be sending everyone back to the drawing board.
Unless Vista really thinks they can manipulate the old tech companies the way Figma's investors worked over Adobe, then I don't think the results will be great.
Re: Citrix acquired and merged with Tibco for $16.5B
#79I wonder if this will affect the open core XenServer project. backstory: Citrix has been releasing a community version of their xenserver product (based on the open source Xen project) but over the last few years they have been removing features from the open core version, going so far as to remove Xen from the name in late 2019 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15974615 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=194794…
Removing Xen from the name had nothing directly to do with changing the model for Xen Server; all Citrix products were re-branded at the same time. You never know what corporations will do with products they're supporting, whether they're open-source or not. (Ask VMWare customers how they're feeling now, for instance.) But with open-source, if there's a large enough user base, someone can step in and take over the so…
Yes, I switched to XCP-ng in early 2017 and haven't looked back. While I am not super in love with Vates (and their incessant pushing of their saas products I have 0% chance of using) it is a great example of the GPL at work protecting users freedoms.
Re: Citrix acquired and merged with Tibco for $16.5B
#80I just find it fascinating that I can go through my life and see things like this: "[Company I've never heard of] and [Another company I've never heard of], something something, billions and billions of dollars". And these companies and the people who run them probably have a non-trivial impact on my life, if not directly than indirectly. It's just fascinating.
The world is a really big place.
For example, when Okta bought Auth0 last year, that was titanic for my employer (we're in their space). But it barely made a ripple to anyone outside of the auth space. People still confuse Auth0 with OAuth when I give talks!
I think about it in other ways too. Look around you. Wherever you are, unless you are in the wilderness, there are 1000s of companies that worked to bring the built environment to you. Whether that be a picture frame, an envelope, a laundry basket, whatever.
It's humbling.