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> it’ll now also have to list a charging speed like 60W or 240W.
Ah, no more trying to do determine what dielectric the cable is using: they’ll label the cable with how fast the charge can propagate through the cable. A significant blow for consumer choice!
So if I've got two computers, each with a port labelled 40 Gbps and a USB cable labelled 40 Gbps, what's the protocol I can use to copy files at close to that? FWIW I used to run PLIP back in the nineties (IP over parallel port) to share my dialup Internet connection between my desktop and "laptop", so I'm not afraid of anything.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/co... > the Ethernet over USB4 interdomain protocol, also known as USB4NET enables two USB4 PCs to establish a network connection between each other when connected using a USB4 cable, akin to connecting an ethernet cable between network cards on two PCs. I wrote about this a month ago at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32714807 it gets confusing because t…
It really ought to be as simple as file transfers from a PC to a phone - plug the cable, each side gets a prompt on whether it wants to provide access, and once you confirm, the other end shows it in the drive/device tree in Explorer.
This part is so exciting: > it’ll now also have to list a charging speed like 60W or 240W. Ah, no more trying to do determine what dielectric the cable is using: they’ll label the cable with how fast the charge can propagate through the cable. A significant blow for consumer choice!
The whole thing is a goddamn mess, and it's a mess because the alliance is a cartel, not an actually useful technical standards group. They're a bunch of fat swine contributing little to nothing but extorting licensing fees from everyone.
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Once the color system is established, I would expect device packaging and/or manuals to indicate the compatible colors.
But why are you defending it with novel solutions and colour grading schemes for something which could simply not be named the same thing because it isn't the same thing?
At this point USB might as well auction their branding rights like sports stadiums: - USB Coke Zero - USB House of Dragon streaming exclusively on HBO - USB Crypto.com Consumers, Devices, and cables could continue ignoring it all but at least the consortium could have a new revenue stream.
So if I've got two computers, each with a port labelled 40 Gbps and a USB cable labelled 40 Gbps, what's the protocol I can use to copy files at close to that? FWIW I used to run PLIP back in the nineties (IP over parallel port) to share my dialup Internet connection between my desktop and "laptop", so I'm not afraid of anything.
Just don't expect to get more than ~20 Gbps due to undocumented controller bottlenecks.
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Honestly I'd prefer that! Have fried two devices using the wrong damn cable/ charger. Sure the device should have had better power IC's etc to prevent anything from happening when I plugged in the wrong one, but still, they all look the damn same!
> fried two devices using the wrong damn cable/ charger Doubt the USB-IF can do anything about that. Those chargers either don't use the USB logo or use it illegally without passing compliance testing. Don't buy from those sellers.
At this point USB might as well auction their branding rights like sports stadiums: - USB Coke Zero - USB House of Dragon streaming exclusively on HBO - USB Crypto.com Consumers, Devices, and cables could continue ignoring it all but at least the consortium could have a new revenue stream.
sobs in mountain dew
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USB does mean that already! If you have two spec-compliant devices, connecting them with a USB cable should never cause one to get fried.
But that's not how it actually goes. Many devices aren't actually spec compliant
> “As we started to update our branding we did a lot of focus group studies with many different types of consumers,” he tells The Verge, “and none of those people understood the messaging and the branding, and they don’t understand revision control or spec names.” You didn't need a focus group to tell you this (though I'm glad they did one). Just look at every single comment thread on HN about USB branding, at this p…