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Someone is pretending to be me

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Re: Someone is pretending to be me

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post #57

What I can't piece together here is what the scammer's endgame is. They land a cushy developer job under some false identity and ... then what? They're not going to pay some random college student to attend every meeting, are they? Even if they were, are they going to be able to maintain the level of work they lied about? If they really had those skills, they would just interview on their own. Something's not adding…

Its possible they need someone with a "Senior" resume so they are able to charge $200/hour for their work. Then they are free to outsource it to 2 or 3 junior devs in a much lower priced market and pocket the difference.

Re: Someone is pretending to be me

#72
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was once pulled in to observe (in the “are you seeing this shit?” sense) an interview where someone off screen was answering questions and the person on camera was moving his lips. I’m not sure if they wanted me to share in the joke, or verify that there was no form of latency that would make lips and audio fail so badly to line up. I’m pretty good at pattern matching. There was no pattern. It was two guys pulling…

I did this for a friend to help him land a job. We got away with it.

Do you think you helped anyone in this scenario?

Re: Someone is pretending to be me

#73
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the scammers found a naive patsy to be the 'employee' and used an experienced dev to do the interview, it makes sense. At many companies, they wouldn't necessarily notice the difference right away too, if someone was pretending to work. Management is often overloaded or checked out. Depending on ethnicity, they might also be unwilling to bring up the issue. For example, if the patsy sticks with it, who is going to…

Pay out to whom? Surely the employment paperwork, the pay checks, the direct deposit forms would have to also be under the assumed name?

It's not hard to find local cut-outs in most areas. In most cases, those folks are also patsies.

Another, different party who cashes checks written to their name in exchange for a cut, for example.

As an example, there is still the old in the tooth craigslist 'oops, I sent too large a cashiers check, can you send me the extra?' scam, which is an even more obvious ripoff, and people fall for that all the time.

If approached by law enforcement, their story would likely be they were working for X (different) company as an assistant or in finance, etc. The other company of course will be in a different state, country, or whatever, or maybe not actually exist, depending on the logistics of the money movement.

The scammers could easily have 10-20 different paychecks going to one person without anyone being the wiser - at least until the IRS got the W-2s or the cut-out started thinking about the long term consequences.

Scammers are used to a lot of churn with stuff like this, it's why these scams are hardish to run and aren't even more lucrative. Think breaking bad and 'Walt trying to ACTUALLY make money selling meth'. Lots of surprise expenses, people going sideways on you, competition you didn't expect, paranoia, logistics difficulties.

That's assuming they aren't just forging/stealing SSNs or identities and using some kind of front somewhere, like payday check cashing places willing to look the other way, or whatever.

There are plenty of folks running bad check scams or the like already, and they don't have the benefit of checks that will actually cash (all the time), like a big companies payroll check.

Re: Someone is pretending to be me

#74
I think the root of the issue is LinkedIn. I know a number of scammers regularly monitor LinkedIn. When a new employee at our office updates LinkedIn they start getting email from the 'CEO', first asking for a personal cell number, and then asking to buy gift cards in a hurry.

I'm seriously considering being LinkedOut.

Re: Someone is pretending to be me

#75
post #57

What I can't piece together here is what the scammer's endgame is. They land a cushy developer job under some false identity and ... then what? They're not going to pay some random college student to attend every meeting, are they? Even if they were, are they going to be able to maintain the level of work they lied about? If they really had those skills, they would just interview on their own. Something's not adding…

Maintaining is not the goal. Say you get a job that pays senior engineer money, and they fire you after maybe three weeks of you just saying "it depends" and pretending your connection is bad. You still made like $5,000. And you're probably running more than one of these scams at a time. And you're doing this from a relatively poor country with not much formal education. 100% worth it.

And who knows, maybe you manage to actually KEEP one of those jobs, which given how bad some employers are at figuring out who's good and bad at this stuff, is entirely plausible.

Re: Someone is pretending to be me

#76

This story is much more fun when you come at it from the interviewer's position. You've been doing interviews every week. They're mostly rejections. They're the same questions over and over with minor variation. You're about to repeat the experience for the 18th time and you're 100% on autopilot. But suddenly you're in a spy thriller. This is the greatest thing that's ever happened. Is it a good legal/corporate decis…

> Is it a good legal/corporate decision to hide the person who claims to be the original and let him listen to the interview with the other candidate?

Consider the situation from the perspective of the interviewer: They don't have all of the background we did while reading this blog. They haven't even had time to process what Connor #1 said by the time that Connor #2 arrives.

The decision to hear them both out for a few minutes is reasonable, IMO. At that point in time, Connor #1 could have been lying as far as the interviewer knew. Letting them both exist in the meeting immediately cleared up any confusion.

Re: Someone is pretending to be me

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of the many reasons I don't dilvulge anything on LinkedIn and merely use it as a funnel to my contact page on my own site.

What difference does this make if the information is on your own site? Or do you share upon request only?

It's available upon request only.

Re: Someone is pretending to be me

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did this for a friend to help him land a job. We got away with it.

Do you think you helped anyone in this scenario?

My friend, who is still earning a 200K salary 9 months later. He got terrible initial reviews, but they kept him.

Re: Someone is pretending to be me

#79

This story is much more fun when you come at it from the interviewer's position. You've been doing interviews every week. They're mostly rejections. They're the same questions over and over with minor variation. You're about to repeat the experience for the 18th time and you're 100% on autopilot. But suddenly you're in a spy thriller. This is the greatest thing that's ever happened. Is it a good legal/corporate decis…

This was my immediate reaction too. Would make my whole week.

Re: Someone is pretending to be me

#80
I had to review a number of developer resumes from a similar site back in 2020. Reading through them absolutely set off my "this is a fake person" detector. The resumes had similar formats, they all seemed to point to a real person, but there was a lingering sense of similarity between them which was too much to account for. I though it might have been because the site provided a way to create resumes and they were all choosing from some common set of options or something like that. However, reading this account makes me think that a scam like this is an equally likely explanation.
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