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Analysis of Apple Watch running data

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> After about a kilometer I have to cross a busy street, I need to pause there regularly. Pausing always fixes erratic mode. Given that the “erratic mode” only impacts the beginning of the run and disappears suddenly at known locations, this sounds like an issue of delayed GPS lock. And given that the problem didn’t exist in the past, it could be a software issue due to upgrades. Or it could be a hardware issue that…

The issue seems definitely related to GPS.

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I'm delighted with my Fitbit Charge 5. Costs a fraction of the Apple Watch, don't need to buy into the Apple Ecosystem to make it useful. Tracks my sleep and fitness shockingly well. The official app is surprisingly good, and there's an API that works pretty well and has endpoints for most if not all the data. That said, I'm a casual exerciser, not a proper hardcore sportsperson. For those I'd say avoid a lifestyle d…

> Fitbit

I'd rather not excercise than have my health data feed the GOOGL advertising engine, thank you. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/google-will-start-as... Because I do not trust them to uphold the EU rules.

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I have never seen and cannot find the pace graph the author shows as a screenshot from the fitness app. Would love that data. Just spent 10 min googling and gave up. Reminds me of this thread from yesterday https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32965288

In iOS 16 it’s tap on the workout, then anywhere under Workout details and scroll a bit. That is really no discoverability issue, because there is even a show more button next to it, that has the same function. But maybe it changed on iOS 16?

Really weird. The only things I can tap into are the splits and the route map. I can scroll the heart rate over to recovery as well. I’m on ios 15. I wonder if it’s the workout type? Outdoor Run, Open Goal is what I’ve used for years now.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In iOS 16 it’s tap on the workout, then anywhere under Workout details and scroll a bit. That is really no discoverability issue, because there is even a show more button next to it, that has the same function. But maybe it changed on iOS 16?

Really weird. The only things I can tap into are the splits and the route map. I can scroll the heart rate over to recovery as well. I’m on ios 15. I wonder if it’s the workout type? Outdoor Run, Open Goal is what I’ve used for years now.

I also don’t include current pace on the watch face but I always assumed it collects that data regardless. I’ll start experimenting because i had no idea this feature existed.

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Semi related iWatch Rant - if you think running data is bad, try tracking your sleep. It just doesn't work. - Sleep for 3h - wake up for 1, sleep for 5 more: records 3h only. - (being a parent of a small baby) do not sleep at all during the night, sleep 4+3 hours during the day: 0 hours recorded - sleep trough the night but wake up every 90-100 minutes (baby again): 0 hours recorded Damn, this is a $500+ device, and…

Sleep tracking always seemed like nonsense to me. You either know you are getting restful sleep or know you are not, and if you are not time is probably better spent taking a proactive approach to establishing healthier lifestyle habits that will lead to more restful sleep. How much is it worth really, to wake up and know exactly how much time you were tossing around not getting rest? I’d imagine you would feel it, statistics or not.

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Semi related iWatch Rant - if you think running data is bad, try tracking your sleep. It just doesn't work. - Sleep for 3h - wake up for 1, sleep for 5 more: records 3h only. - (being a parent of a small baby) do not sleep at all during the night, sleep 4+3 hours during the day: 0 hours recorded - sleep trough the night but wake up every 90-100 minutes (baby again): 0 hours recorded Damn, this is a $500+ device, and…

The Huawei Fit performed significantly worse compared to the Apple Watch in this sleep test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPqtfC70QTU

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I question the validity of the application. Apple seems to be promoting physical health while simultaneously leveraging mental illness to increase revenue. I grant that this is an actual business space, accessorizing and promoting fitness, but these computerized accessories fundamentally distract from the individual's primary goal of getting in shape, leading to reliance on computerized devices that are unnecessary t…

It’s not necessary, but being able to measure improvement is highly motivating. Part of the fun of the sport for some of us is being able to experiment with variables like nutrition, heart rate zones, pacing , etc and measuring the impact on performance. I’ve had a Garmin watch since 2009 and I have always enjoyed being able to know I hit a new pace or distance. It also makes it easy to run on a new trail for X miles and turn around instead of having to map out a run on an existing course and time the laps with a watch. Probably the greatest addition to the sport since music imo.

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I’m part of a running group with a mix of Garmin and Apple Watches and the Apple Watches always have pretty different distant readings according to Strava, maybe 2%-5%. The Garmin devices are generally much closer together. I wonder if the dual-band GPS on the Apple Watch Ultra is an attempt to fix these problems? I would guess that it’s software, with the author, if for no other reason than I’d be surprised if Garmi…

> I’d be surprised if Garmin were all that much better at putting GPS in a tiny housing than Apple. Given Garmin’s long, long history as a manufacturer of (often very small) GPS devices, I personally wouldn’t be. (I also know for a fact they do mapping better. This summer I was in the South of Italy and only Garmin accurately distinguished between small public roads and long private driveways while both Google and Ap…

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I question the validity of the application. Apple seems to be promoting physical health while simultaneously leveraging mental illness to increase revenue. I grant that this is an actual business space, accessorizing and promoting fitness, but these computerized accessories fundamentally distract from the individual's primary goal of getting in shape, leading to reliance on computerized devices that are unnecessary t…

What you’re describing is a fantastic way to injure yourself.

Comment is vague, but apparently what you are suggesting is that physical fitness isn't safe without using a computer. Our bodies evolved to run, and it is, actually, possible to recognize and react to what the body reports to the brain through sensation without any intermediary electronic device gathering and reporting false data. Many are capable of sensing injury or illness before overt symptoms appear, and react accordingly, reducing or eliminating negative impact. The more computerized devices are relied on for ordinary activity, the more they become a crutch, and the more difficult it becomes to operate without them. Obsession is unmistakably unhealthy.

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Semi related iWatch Rant - if you think running data is bad, try tracking your sleep. It just doesn't work. - Sleep for 3h - wake up for 1, sleep for 5 more: records 3h only. - (being a parent of a small baby) do not sleep at all during the night, sleep 4+3 hours during the day: 0 hours recorded - sleep trough the night but wake up every 90-100 minutes (baby again): 0 hours recorded Damn, this is a $500+ device, and…

Sleep tracking always seemed like nonsense to me. You either know you are getting restful sleep or know you are not, and if you are not time is probably better spent taking a proactive approach to establishing healthier lifestyle habits that will lead to more restful sleep. How much is it worth really, to wake up and know exactly how much time you were tossing around not getting rest? I’d imagine you would feel it, s…

It's very useful information when you are never rested and constantly are trying to tweak variables to observe the impacts to your sleep. I've long since stopped relying on trackers, however, as nothing seemed to display any accuracy whatsoever. I manually record my perception of sleep every night.
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