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Re: Check Your IP Reputation Score

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Post by xist »

mindslight wrote: post #69
xist wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the difference between the setup you describe being used for what I assume is privacy, and the same setup being used for nefarious reasons exiting from your presumably consumer level VPS?

The difference is as you just said - one is being used for privacy, and the other for "nefarious reasons". It seems like you're trying to imply an association, while avoiding having to make the "if you have nothing to hide" argument explicitly.

Not at all.

I'm wondering why you expect the websites you're attempting to utilize to understand your intentions are "pure" when I would argue that setup is vastly more commonly used for nefarious purposes.

They do blocking for a reason. I'm sure if you contacted them they would explain they lose $$$$$$ a year due to fraud/abuse/hack/nefarious attempts coming from setups similar to yours, which dwarfs however much you might buy from them. I understand their position.

There are commercial VPN and security solutions etc that would achieve some of the goals - undoubtedly at a higher cost than what you're running. You would essentially paying for a boost in reputation that websites would recognize as being more on the "good" side than "bad".

It's quite unfortunate for you I agree but I don't blame them at all.

A suggestion - get a more premiere data center host and get a /29 network allocated to you (can be using a LLC for privacy). Essentially become a commercial entity and pass the sniff test for a lot of websites.

Or subscribe to a service that does that for you, and your frustrations will melt away.

Re: Check Your IP Reputation Score

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Post by mindslight »

xist wrote: post #71
mindslight wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is as you just said - one is being used for privacy, and the other for "nefarious reasons". It seems like you're trying to imply an association, while avoiding having to make the "if you have nothing to hide" argument explicitly.

Not at all. I'm wondering why you expect the websites you're attempting to utilize to understand your intentions are "pure" when I would argue that setup is vastly more commonly used for nefarious purposes. They do blocking for a reason. I'm sure if you contacted them they would explain they lose $$$$$$ a year due to fraud/abuse/hack/nefarious attempts coming from setups similar to yours, which dwarfs however much yo…

I expect websites to use IP addresses for their purpose of routing packets back to me, and perhaps some slightly-above-L2 concerns like rate limiting.

And yes, I understand these businesses have fallen for snake oil salesmen telling them things like VPSs are indicators of "nefarious purposes". But the actual reality is why would someone with "nefarious purposes" need or want to use a VPS? Rather someone looking to do credit card fraud is going to be using a proxy service that runs through residential connections via cracked machines.

Commercial VPNs, which I also use for some types of traffic, get hassled just as much by websites. So no, that is not a solution.

Getting my own /29 would defeat the entire purpose of browsing from a rotating data center IP, which is to defeat IP-based tracking.

The only way to solve this dynamic is for enough people to start browsing from VPNs, CGNAT, etc, that the snake oil salesmen have to move on to something else.

Re: Check Your IP Reputation Score

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Post by Terretta »

jonathan-kosgei wrote: post #36
brushfoot wrote: post #34

This is what I get for a public IP used for some of my websites: Threats: 0 Trust score: 0 - High risk I'm confused why it's considered high risk if no threats were detected. Maybe unknown IPs are considered high risk until proven otherwise?

"Threats" is based on static blocklists. "Trust Score" is generated by a model. So what this means is, "even though this IP hasn't been reported anywhere we still think it's high risk".

You're rating massive swaths of Verizon FIOS home internet fiber with static IP addresses as zero threat, high risk.

Re: Check Your IP Reputation Score

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Post by TT-392 »

jonathan-kosgei wrote: post #32
data_maan wrote: post #31

This company is providing a horrible anti-service! Random company website you are visiting: "We're sorry, we can't offer you access to our service today, as you IP score was below our required threshold. Please try again later and have a nice day."

No, if your reputation is really bad you'll probably just be shown a captcha.

And then you complete the captcha, the page reloads, and you have to solve another captcha. Never actually getting to the site

Re: Check Your IP Reputation Score

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Post by mid-kid »

data_maan wrote: post #31

This company is providing a horrible anti-service! Random company website you are visiting: "We're sorry, we can't offer you access to our service today, as you IP score was below our required threshold. Please try again later and have a nice day."

This is the sort of thing the likes of cloudflare and google use to decide whether it shows you a captcha or not. I agree discrimimating on things like IP and User Agent and cookies as well as other things is undesireable, but I'm glad this site is at least transparent about it.

Re: Check Your IP Reputation Score

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Post by byyll »

mindslight wrote: post #72
xist wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not at all. I'm wondering why you expect the websites you're attempting to utilize to understand your intentions are "pure" when I would argue that setup is vastly more commonly used for nefarious purposes. They do blocking for a reason. I'm sure if you contacted them they would explain they lose $$$$$$ a year due to fraud/abuse/hack/nefarious attempts coming from setups similar to yours, which dwarfs however much yo…

I expect websites to use IP addresses for their purpose of routing packets back to me, and perhaps some slightly-above-L2 concerns like rate limiting. And yes, I understand these businesses have fallen for snake oil salesmen telling them things like VPSs are indicators of "nefarious purposes". But the actual reality is why would someone with "nefarious purposes" need or want to use a VPS? Rather someone looking to do…

>these businesses have fallen for snake oil salesmen telling them things like VPSs are indicators of "nefarious purposes"

They are indicators. 95% of the abuse on my VPS came from China, services like Contabo, DigitalOcean, Linode, Azure, Oracle, GCP, M247, and Tor. Some of these are no longer allowed to even reach L7 for my website. One other statistic I noticed is that some of those providers have 0% legitimate traffic.

Re: Check Your IP Reputation Score

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Post by byyll »

data_maan wrote: post #37
jonathan-kosgei wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, if your reputation is really bad you'll probably just be shown a captcha.

No, Cloudfare often just blocks you. And if it doesn't, do you think that is a better solution, solving a captcha every 5 minutes? Just try using Google from behind a serious VPN provider, see how that works for you. Also, what is your opinion on geoblock, do you think that is a good thing? It seems you are one of the company's representatives that has never in his life consistently used a VPN or Tor, so you don't ev…

Although I am not a fan of cloudflare, cloudflare doesn't just block you. It's up to the administrator to choose what action he applies to what type of user.

https://developers.cloudflare.com/firewall/cf-firewall-rules...

Re: Check Your IP Reputation Score

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Post by MiguelX413 »

data_maan wrote: post #35
MatthiasPortzel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s correctly distinguished between your home internet and a server. That’s the intention here, to discriminate against VPN users and bots.

What's your problem with VPN users? Are you some kind of voyeur that likes to snoop in other people's private business? Where I go in the internet is my business alone, just like were I go outside my house. And having an online version of China's social credit tracking me online to see if I behave is not a good thing. You are providing a service that is actively diminishing (already brittle) internet privacy and I ha…

They don't necessarily have a problem with VPN users, they're just describing the purpose.
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